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    New cycle. Long time since my last so basically a first cycle.

    Stats: 32 years old, 5'8" 170 roughly 12-14%.

    Cycles of test only, deca only, test again and var only. Last one was 8 years ago. Got injured and grad school and lost all gains.

    Dropped down to about 145-150 and am now at 170 with only diet and exercise.

    This is my getting my feet wet before a 16-18 week test c and primo run.

    Here goes

    Week 1-8 Test P 80mg ED
    Week 1-8 hcg 250iu 2x/week
    Weeks 1-8 T3 85mcg/day and T4 50mcg/day (have a script) then back to normal dose.

    No ai on cycle. Have 2 recent BW run with a 4 and 6 level of E2 but will get it checked every 2 weeks to monitor and have it on hand.

    PCT:
    Nolva 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 100/50/50/25 - I hate clomid. ****s with my vision so I may lower dose depending on sides.

    TDEE is 2200 cals a day. Thinking about upping 100 cals a week for the first 4 weeks and see how I'm responding. Then hopefully be able to up them 100 every 5 days.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyMcFly
    Stats: 32 years old, 5'8" 170 roughly 12-14%.

    Cycles of test only, deca only, test again and var only. Last one was 8 years ago. Got injured and grad school and lost all gains.

    Dropped down to about 145-150 and am now at 170 with only diet and exercise.

    This is my getting my feet wet before a 16-18 week test c and primo run.

    Here goes

    Week 1-8 Test P 80mg ED
    Week 1-8 hcg 250iu 2x/week
    Weeks 1-8 T3 85mcg/day and T4 50mcg/day (have a script) then back to normal dose.

    No ai on cycle. Have 2 recent BW run with a 4 and 6 level of E2 but will get it checked every 2 weeks to monitor and have it on hand.

    PCT:
    Nolva 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 100/50/50/25 - I hate clomid. ****s with my vision so I may lower dose depending on sides.

    TDEE is 2200 cals a day. Thinking about upping 100 cals a week for the first 4 weeks and see how I'm responding. Then hopefully be able to up them 100 every 5 days.

    Thoughts?
    1.21 gigowatts !!! Sorry couldn't help myself. You'll get some great help here.

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    100mcg of T4 is equivalent to 25mcg of T3. You're already taking 50mcg of T4 plus 85mcg of T3 (about 340mcg T4). This is almost 400mcg of T4, 4 times the normal dosage. Any reason you're taking so much? I would go on Arimadex .25mg every other day. It's a guards against gyno. Rest 3 days before you PCT.

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    By my calculations this will put me around 100mcg of T3 which is what I want. T4 is only there because I have pharm and it will get me to where I want T3 to be. Otherwise it is pretty much useless since it is a prohormone.

    As far as ADEX goes I already have extremely low E2 per blood tests so taking any might crash my level to 0. Not good. I'll be taking blood tests to monitor it and if if climbs towards high normal levels I'll take some.

    I actually want my E2 to rise some. Low levels are not fun. Agree about 3 days before PCT.

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