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    what do you think?

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    cut the dbol you will gain a lot of water with it. substitute the dbol with winny.
    try this cycle
    week 1-4 50mg winny ed
    week 1-10 eq 400/week
    week 1-10 test 500/week
    this combined with a good diet, enough sleep and hard training 20 pounds will be easily attainable.
    good luck

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    i like the second one also but i would swith the winny toward the end like this

    wk 1-10 test 400-600 mg wk
    wk 1-10 eq 400-600 mg wk
    wk 7-13 winny 50 mg ed

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    I would go with 4plates advise.

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    thankx alot guys. Im not looking to get cut up, just put on quality muscle. I want to look hard though. I have decent size now, but i want to start increasing the density of my muscles. I want to futher my research, but will the cycles suggested be my best bet to achieve my goals. My stats are 5'8 210 about 13-14%bf
    Thankx for the help!!!!!!!

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    Im with 4 plates. This cycle will harden you up nice. All the weight you gain from this cycle will consist of mainly lean muscle

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    i like 4plates' suggestion. i personally would take the winny down to 25mg/day and drag it out for longer. this has been not only easier on my liver, but also on my joints.

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    Im with 4plates on this one !

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    When would i start the clomid therapy? Two weeks after my last shots of Eq and Test while taking the winnie, or after i finish cycling the winnie?

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    3 wks after eq, which should be the same time winny is done too.

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