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    need help with next cycle

    Hi guys, need some help with my next cycle.
    it will be my 4th
    Im 32, 5'8 203, not sure of BF% but have a bit of the belly and love handles, not alot but when flexed you can only see the two upper abs...and then theres the belly donut around the belly button! lol
    1st cycle was 400mg test E....after 4wks got gyno and went off!

    2nd cycle was test cyp 500mg/wk...16wks with d-bol 30mg/day-4wks
    arimidex .25mg/day start to finish
    gained 16 lbs

    3rd test cyp/600mg/wk
    400mg deca
    ....10wks....5lbs
    what a waste of $ that cycle was.

    diet is pretty good, aimed for 300mg of protein/day usuall got around 240


    what should I try this time?
    also should I loose all the fat first or does it matter?
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzer
    Hi guys, need some help with my next cycle.
    it will be my 4th
    Im 32, 5'8 203, not sure of BF% but have a bit of the belly and love handles, not alot but when flexed you can only see the two upper abs...and then theres the belly donut around the belly button! lol
    1st cycle was 400mg test E....after 4wks got gyno and went off!

    2nd cycle was test cyp 500mg/wk...16wks with d-bol 30mg/day-4wks
    arimidex .25mg/day start to finish
    gained 16 lbs

    3rd test cyp/600mg/wk
    400mg deca
    ....10wks....5lbs
    what a waste of $ that cycle was.

    diet is pretty good, aimed for 300mg of protein/day usuall got around 240


    what should I try this time?
    also should I loose all the fat first or does it matter?
    thanks
    what are your goals, and what can u get

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    size

    size...looking to put on some good mass, as for what I can get....only have one source and Im unsure of that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzer
    size...looking to put on some good mass, as for what I can get....only have one source and Im unsure of that...

    u didnt grow from deca and cyp?who made them? how many calories were u eating,if your diet isnt right, you are really doing more harm than good on your body

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzer
    only have one source and Im unsure of that...
    You should double check your source and make sure he isn't selling fake gear if that is where you got your last cycle from. With 600mg/wk of cyp and 400mg/wk of deca for ten weeks and only a 5 pound gain.....that doesn't sound right bro. With a cycle like that you should have gained close to 20lbs if your diet was right.

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    pvl

    hate to knock them as Ive heard lots of good things but I used PVL cyp 300mg/ml and VL Deca 300mg/ml

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    thanks

    guess I need a new source.
    ...help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzer
    hate to knock them as Ive heard lots of good things but I used PVL cyp 300mg/ml and VL Deca 300mg/ml

    imo, go to the diet forum and get that in check,and also get your training tweeked, u should have put on at least 20 pounds from that, either that or the gear was bunk, a good bulker is deca and cyp or enth, and that would have been the cycle i would have suggested

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    thanks

    Ok, I will check those out, but I think I was doing weel in both areas...like I mentioned, 2nd cycle I gained 16lbs while using .25mg of arimidex a day....so I probably would have gained at leat 20lbs or more without the anti-e.
    I think I need a new source.....bueler?...anyone...?

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    dose

    so would that dose be good to try again if I can get some?
    600 cyp and 300 or 400 deca
    also how would you do the shots, mon/thurs cyp and once/wk of deca?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzer
    Ok, I will check those out, but I think I was doing weel in both areas...like I mentioned, 2nd cycle I gained 16lbs while using .25mg of arimidex a day....so I probably would have gained at leat 20lbs or more without the anti-e.
    I think I need a new source.....bueler?...anyone...?

    bro, anti e's wont hurt your cycle, try a 1 g of cyp and 600 mgs of deca , but have your anti e's, either b 6 or dostinex, nolva, l dex and clomid

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