Thread: Pushing the envelope
02-13-2005, 04:36 AM #1
Pushing the envelope
Been cycling off and on for 19 years with proper recovery time (on=off), and I thought my body was all tricked out. Everybody supposedly has a size limit. It seemed like I wasn't progressing with each new cycle. I made the mistake of thinking I needed exotic AAS as opposed to the basics.
Well, for this cycle I bumped my dosage of test e a lot (!) and added tren ace at 150mg eod with drol 200mg ed (2 wks on 3 wks off and repeat).
My weight is shooting through the roof as is strength and bf is not increasing.
Eating everything in sight.
35+ yrs old
02-13-2005, 05:58 AM #2
congrats man! keep it up, but be safe with drol.
02-13-2005, 06:31 AM #3Junior Member
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Hey bro, how much test e are you running, and have you run drol before?
Congrats on the gains!
02-13-2005, 08:03 AM #4
Yes, I have run drol as well as most every AAS before. I am in the bulking phase of my cycle and getting ready for a show in May....in Asia. I run a gram of test e every other day with the tren and drol as mentioned before.
Yeah, I know this will piss off many people, but everyone has different tolerances and goals. I don't even get any sides from test below 2 grams per week. Many will say..oh yeah you're going to die from that. I think not. I have not heard of any BB's in the 70's who died from high doses of test. That came along with ultra-strong diuretics which I don't use. My cycles never run more than 4-5 months in length.
Go ahead and flame, but I just wanted to tell my story.
I am not rich either. I live where this is legal and very cheap. No PM's. I will not answer them.
02-13-2005, 08:11 AM #5
You're a big fella, why not bump up the tren and lower the drol some. With that much test you could easily run 150mg ed of tren and cut the drol in half, seems safer IMO. Have you used other substances like HGH, IGF-1, slin, PGF2-A?
02-13-2005, 08:17 AM #6
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