thinking about using gear

**Capo** · 03-23-2005, 09:06 AM

I'm thinking about doing my first cycle the problem use dont know much abou it i was told dbal puts on alot but u lose most of it when done. I want something that will put on muscle but wont lose most of it when done. i was told decca like i said it will b my first cycle if i decide to do it pleas help..

***xxx*** · 03-23-2005, 09:23 AM

stats? d-bol...bad idea.

**Capo** · 03-23-2005, 09:26 AM

cool thanks i have been doing some research about d and everything i have read about says it bad what about decca i want to keep most of what i put on after cycle.

**smegs** · 03-23-2005, 09:28 AM

first cycle? how old are you bro?
i suggest test e @ 500 mg/week
but give us your stats first

**pain time** · 03-23-2005, 09:29 AM

i would not us deca for my first cycle i would go with a test at maybe 500mgs a week and stay away from Prop. And you can run an anti e which will control the bloat and water weight so it will be quailty muscule weight, along with a good PCT of clomid and clen an you will remain pretty hard depending on your diet and how you train that is the key.

**Capo** · 03-23-2005, 10:25 AM

Im 30 yrs old cool thanks for all the info if i decied to use i will post picks

***xxx*** · 03-23-2005, 10:26 AM

weight, how long have u been lifting? not only ur age...lol

**Capo** · 03-23-2005, 11:05 AM

lol sorry new to the form my heigh is 6'2 weight 280 i havent been lifting long im just getting into it again but before i do i want to get my facts sraight before i do.. i have been lifting on and off for about 1 yr

***xxx*** · 03-23-2005, 11:09 AM

well there s a controversial discussion between ppl who think u will lose ur gains that are above ur genetic limit and ppl who think different. I think that if u stop juicing u will fall back to that limit if u crossed this barrier with the help of steroids . so there are no "real" permanent gains.

**SwoleCat** · 03-23-2005, 11:14 AM

One must have a base to build a house upon. If not, the house will crumble.

~SC~

**Capo** · 03-23-2005, 11:19 AM

so what i'm gathering is that i should start of natural and build a foundation then gear up i have been told i have the genetics to b a monster so i will hold off for some time before the gear. thanks for all the very helpful info...