03-30-2005, 02:55 PM #1
Does bridging with dbol really work?
Does anybody know? Because I would love to do such a thing if it actually worked lol. Is it just a myth or what? I hear too many mixed things.
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03-30-2005, 03:22 PM #4
bump because i have no idea what it means
03-30-2005, 03:24 PM #5
03-30-2005, 03:30 PM #6
ive read that bridging does not really work at all because your body is never given the opportunity to recover fully, therefor its really just like being on cycle indefinitely.
03-30-2005, 03:41 PM #7
From what I understand it works only if done properly. I tried it, but never had bloodwork done to find out for sure. It is suggested that you take no more than 10mg. early in the a.m. when you would normally have a spike in endogenous testosterone . Due to the short half life of d-bol, later in the day the pituitary will detect lower test levels and eventually begin producing leutinizing hormone again. Thats the idea anyways.
P.S. This suggestion was posted by someone who seemed well informed on the subject, but I cant remember who they are to give them credit
03-30-2005, 03:45 PM #8
IMO bridging is really a bad idea. d-bol is gonna shut your nuts down just like test does. Unless you want your nuts to atrophy you should give them some time to kick back on with proper pct. No doubt there gonna shrink if not taken care of. But if you don't care, go for it.
03-30-2005, 03:46 PM #9Originally Posted by DrugsrGood
03-30-2005, 03:48 PM #10
Oh yeah, plus I think a much better option is to bridge with IGF-1 LR3, slin, PGF2-A, and HGH. Atleast that's what I plan on doing (minus the HGH, no $$$). That way not only will you not get shut down, but IGF-1 and PGF2-A have been shown to increase LH levels by themselves. Also, slin is quite anabolic and reduces SHBG levels.
03-30-2005, 03:49 PM #11Registered User
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Bump for better real-world advice from anyone who did this....
Id be curious to see. Im starting PCT soon from my test-only cycle, and would love to bridge with some dbol while i wait to start my 2nd cycle begining of june.
03-30-2005, 03:54 PM #12
03-30-2005, 03:54 PM #13
Actually, going on my 4th week. Sorry.
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03-30-2005, 04:08 PM #15
Yeah, thats how I did it.
03-30-2005, 04:36 PM #16
Shheit i read it wrong, i dont bridge at all nothing imbetween cycles
03-30-2005, 04:38 PM #17
I'm going crazy. I want to start my next CYCLEEEEEEEEEEE AhHhhHhh! lol
03-30-2005, 04:57 PM #18
the way i see it bridging is stupied unless your out of money. if im still gonna be shut down im sure as hell gonna do more then a few d-bols, you might as well run some test and deca with it and call it a long cycle instead of bridging. thats what bridging is anyway. thats why i end up running 24 week cycles
03-30-2005, 06:17 PM #19
This explains the bridge in an easy-to-read manner with overall accurate information. Again, if using D-bol (androgen) it should be limited to 10mg and only be taken in the AM. If using Var (anabolic ) you can use up to 20mg and it does not need to be used in AM. If using Test, then it really doesnt matter because the recovery factor will not be there. Again, I define a "bridge" as a way to recover HPTA while maintaining gains...this is my good deed for the day....
D-bol Bridge Explained by Fonz
I've been reading some of the posts regarding this
bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? a B-R-I-D-G-E.
Your LH function and Test levels are supposed
Ok, now having said that.
Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone,
brand name Dianabol .
10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the
benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
its androgenic mode of action.
Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
function, thus STRENGTH.
OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.
When are testosterone levels highest?
Answer: In the AM, thats when.
Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.
This is when tesosterone levels are highest.
When are Insulin levels lowest?
Answer: In the AM thats when.
Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
(Also fat, but protein is also being converted
to glucose via glucogenesis)
OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us
(Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)
Lets take Subject X.
He's in bridging mode.
He has just woken up.
The body is about to release tesosterone, thus
creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low.
His LH and test levels are very low.
He pops 10mgs of dianabol.
Here is where things get interesting.
The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.
The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.
In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.
Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
RECOVER over time.
Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
in the morning from low insulogenic levels.
HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.
You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!!
Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.
10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,
LH function is allowed to up-regulate.
Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY
testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
thus not allowing LH function to recover.
Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.
The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.
So, here's the scenario summed up:
Beginning: LOW LH and test.
Adding the 10mgs dball.
LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
testosterone levels are kept at a level which
will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects
will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!
The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
of the way there but the only way you're going
to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it
throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
once in the AM.
Hope that clears the air.
03-30-2005, 06:42 PM #20
What if you used 15mg is that still to much. And would you be able to gain anything off that 10mg in the morning if you worked out in the morning.
03-30-2005, 06:47 PM #21Registered User
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Yea, honestly, i know gains will be minimal with a dbol AM bridge, but im thinkin it will totally eliminate the 'coming off' muscle loss, while providing more of a gain than normal natural lifting.
This is something im going to look into more......
Excellent information, thanks.
03-30-2005, 10:07 PM #22
15mg is too much and the bridge will not work.
Hed, I used it for the same principles as you and the coming off muscle loss is definately minimum. almost unbeleivable. I don't think the 10mg AM dbol bridge will make that much of a drastic change as far as gaining is concerned for you folks that are thinking of trying it but it certainly makes me feel better at night when it comes down to losing size post cycle. I'm still lifting the same as far as strenth. Some weight loss cause I was sick and also I'm on GH so I expected that but as far as strength I've gotten even stronger then I was during cycle. IMO it's the mixture of the GH and maybe the dbol.
03-30-2005, 10:10 PM #23
So has anyone done this with success or what?
03-30-2005, 10:11 PM #24
I'm halfway through it bro. So far so good.
03-30-2005, 10:13 PM #25
Deffinitely keep me posted
03-30-2005, 10:15 PM #26
I got 4 weeks left and so far I'm extremely happy. I followed the info I posted early exactly how it sais it should be done. No more then 8 weeks. I take my 10mg ED every morning w/ my GH and I'm good to go. I hit the gym at 5pm and I feel great.
03-30-2005, 10:17 PM #27
Say I come off a cycle and I wanna bridge...do I do this during PCT time while using clomid or not even use clomid?
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03-31-2005, 09:13 AM #29Registered User
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Thanks for this man, i think this is something im gonna try, only to reduce the muscle mass loss from coming off my cycle. Im starting a test/eq cycle this summer, it will be my 2nd one, so i just wanna keep what i got until then with that extremely mild bridge.
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