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    First cycle, what do you think?

    As a first cycle, looking to build lean muscle but not too much of it.

    Weeks 1-6 200mg Parabolan
    Weeks 1-6 150mg Winny
    Weeks 1-6 30-40 mg Turinabol e.d.

    What do you guys think? Personally, i plan to lift naturally for another year or so, then begin the cycle.

    Thanks for your help,

    Me

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    what are your stats?

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    19 yrs, 6'2" 170 9%bf

    185 bench, 315 squat, 235 clean

    4.8 forty and 2.7 twenty with a 33 inch vert.

    I've been lifting for 3 years, pretty hard, on a program that never changed or varied...
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    at 6'2 you needa be atlest 200 pounds befor usising AS, and you need a base test at 500mg's perweek for 8-10 weeks as a first to see how your body reacts.

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    id say if your an athlete get the Bigger Faster Stronger program...im on it and it works wonders, how much protien/calories/carms are you getting per day?

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    I am assuming you don't want to get all "big and muscley". If you want to put on lean muscle but not too much of it then just lift natural. You are also way to small to be considering AS.

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    It said in the 'steroid profile' section that Test shouldn't be used as a first cycle, just to be devil's advocate. At first, i was pretty confident on a Test E and Winny cycle for the first one, but became leery when i read what steroid.com had to say.

    I don't plan on AR for at least another year...with solid lifting and good nutrition, 200ibs should be obtainable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GridIronDevil
    id say if your an athlete get the Bigger Faster Stronger program...im on it and it works wonders, how much protien/calories/carms are you getting per day?
    That's funny bc i was on the BFS program. The problem was eventually my body barely responded to the same workout everyday for 3 yrs, bc my football coach refused to change set, also bc i have to shed about 35 ibs for wrestling, and my bf is already around 9%.

    I try for about 100g protein daily, and 3-4000 calories of low fat food every day...some days i don't make it.

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    too young now, and whoever told you that your original cycle was bad is an idiot, you had it right for a beginner

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    def on a test E, winny cycle first

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    too young now
    I def. plan on lifting naturally for at least another year...i've already been scolded and subsequently learned my lesson

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    Why is Test advantageous to the parabolan ?

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    ...to be my advocate...i like that, anyway, all im sayin bro is when that **** is done right it works trust me, and test is a staple for a cycle and a especially fora first cycle...whoever told you straight test fora first is nutz, and also i have to give you props for starting your questions and research a yera befor i wish everyone would do that, trust me in the next year you'll leanr more then you couldof ever imagined.

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    the test base and only test fora first lets you figure out how your body is going to respond to anabolic steroids ...its kinda like a test drive no pun intented

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    Quote Originally Posted by GridIronDevil
    the test base and only test fora first lets you figure out how your body is going to respond to anabolic steroids...its kinda like a test drive no pun intented
    From what it said, it read there was no reason to take test until your body had gotten "used" to lesser gear...i can find the link if you'd like.


    http://www.steroid.com/TESTOSTERONE%20ENANTHATE.phtml
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    well alright bro its up to you im just given you the knowledge i have that has been given to me...

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    It is most definitely appreciated. The answers will come in time.

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    test is the base for pretty much all gear. i'm not sure what you're gettin at about lesser gear. creatine. test is perfect for a first timer, if you're ready. check out this thread, he's done really good research.

    first cycle, please critique

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    Your first cycle should look like this


    1-12 test

    6-12 winstrol

    12-16 clomid

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    [QUOTE]

    Can i get away with a shorter cycle? As a first timer, idk if i want to cycle for 12 weeks. Would you guys recommend a shorter one?

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