04-02-2005, 06:06 PM #1
My brothers steppin into the game
My older brother, the one who taught me how to work out, has finally reached the point where he cant grow anymore without chemical assistance. He's about 30 and has plateaued big time. He's 6'3 260 at 6% bodyfat, and looks downright intimidating, our families got some good genetics. Hes been researching steroids for a bit, and im giving him some help as well. The problem is, he's still afraid of Testosterone , so I've been thinking of perhaps giving him a primer cycle before he starts a real cycle. Kinda like taking pre algebra to prepare you for algebra. To do this I was thinking of Primobolan (Mentholone Enanthate ). I have been thinking about primobolan due to its easiness on your HPTA. Though it is a predominantly anabolic steroid , being a DHT derivative it maintains androgenic qualities. Since it does not convert to estrogen, low water retention, lack of gyno and female pattern fat deposits are avoided. So heres what i've been thinking of
Week 1-13 Primobolan at 300 mg/week
The T3 ramping schedule described in the educational forum that starts about halfway through the cycle
Proper PCT of course and i'll put him on 10 mg's of Nolvadex a day on cycle (I dont think 20 is all that necessary)
And post cycle clen (hes was really excited when we discussed clen)
Now I know the belief here is that Testosterone is essential to any and every cycle, and its a belief I ascribe to. However, this is going to give him a taste and an understanding of AAS, how to inject properly and according to a schedule, and how to use other compounds for a synergistic effect, this will teach him the basics. Frankly I think he can put on between 10-15 pounds of quality muscle by the end of the cycle. Future cycles Ill put him on Test E and EQ (which was my first) and then move on from there if he decides to. What do you guys think?
04-02-2005, 06:10 PM #2
agree that test doesnt have to be in every cycle, but members should adjust their mass building diets strictly and will grow as if they were taking a moderate dose of test!
04-02-2005, 06:11 PM #3
I see what you're saying with the intro to gear and that..but such a low dose of primo for a 260lbs man? I don't know that he will even notice any gains...anyone else?
04-02-2005, 06:12 PM #4
if this his first cycle just test cycle should be enough or like this
1-4 30mg dbol ed
1-12 500mg any kind of test (test E-test cyp or test prop<---not recommended many injections)
1-12 nolva 20mg ed
btw if he wants to bulk EQ is not a good roid for bulking & it works so slow i say save it for cutting
good luck & welcome to the game
04-02-2005, 06:13 PM #5
He's no dummy, hes on top of his diet like a frat boy is on top of a 17 year old drunk party girl. I think he's about done making progress, significant progress at least without the help of AAS and hes ready for it.
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04-02-2005, 06:15 PM #7
Why is he scared of doing test? Just curious...it's the primary male hormone, everybody loves test!
04-02-2005, 06:17 PM #8
Haha just a bit of a wimp i guess, like i said he likes to take things slow, and I dont want him to spend alot of money if he decides its not for him.
04-02-2005, 06:18 PM #9
04-02-2005, 06:19 PM #10Originally Posted by wilthepill123
If he doens't want to do test, he may not be ready to step over yet at all IMO.
04-02-2005, 06:23 PM #11
Yes i understand and agree with what you're saying Juddman. If the Primo doesnt work no harm done and it will make it clear to him that he needs to step up, and he'll have the know how on what to do without my assistance. Also, you said:
was thinking of a primo cycle myself before I really read up
04-02-2005, 06:26 PM #12Originally Posted by wilthepill123
oh ic well good luck for him i just tried to help
04-02-2005, 06:28 PM #13Originally Posted by wilthepill123
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personally pill i think you got a reall good plan...i personally think that will...pop his cherry for AAS use and open new worlds to him...IMO nice plan my brother
04-02-2005, 06:29 PM #15
you dont want him to spend alot of money but are reccomending primo? BTW I dont think he will even see any effects from it, due to his alledged size.
I reccomend a low dose test (250mg) with something like EQ, if he wants to take it "light"
04-02-2005, 07:19 PM #16
Primo won't do jack for him, and will probably just discourage him. It's way to expensive, often fake, and even when it is real it's still worthless. Just put him on a low dose of test with the proper anti-es and pct. Like 300mg of Test cyp with a-dex and nolva.
04-02-2005, 07:22 PM #17
agreed with the others
260lbs is a decent size, if hes really that big what youve got planned wont cut it
04-02-2005, 07:48 PM #18
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