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03-30-2005, 11:19 PM #1
Serious Cycle Layout Please Discuss
HERES MY NEW LAYOUT goals on this one are are lean mass and serious definition and extreme hardness (the ripped looked) 190 5,9' 13-15% b/f 4 cycles. please comment and ask questions id like to discuss this cycle a bit it took me awile to decide on it. thanx bros
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-4-10 primo 200mg eod
-4-10 eq 200mg e3d
1-4 winni 50mg ed
1-12 prop 100mg eod
1-12 var 60mg ed
7-12 masteron 120mg eod
9-12 winni 50mg ed
-4-1 clen /keto 60-80-100-80
5-8 clen/keto 80-100-120-100
13-16 clen/keto 100-120-140-100
1-4 hcg 500iu 1x a week
9-12 hcg 500iu 1x a week
1-12 nolva 10mg ed
13-16 nolva 20mg ed
13-14 clomid 100mg ed
15-16 clomid 50mg ed
im starting primo and eq 4 weeks before the prop and var to get a full 14 weeks of both i guess a frontload of primo and eq for 4 weeks also will take the clen during this front load. it looks awesome to me and some guys at 2 of the gyms i go to so what do u guys think
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03-30-2005, 11:27 PM #2
im also taking
finestride, thistle, taurine, b-5, primrose oil, lots of vits.
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03-30-2005, 11:49 PM #3
don't run anything without test. start the eq at the same time as the prop and extend the prop to 15 weeks. do the eq for 12 - 13. that's a pretty low dose of prop also. i think you should decrease the # of gear used and put your money on proper doses for the right length. just my 2 cents. my want some ldex in there.
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03-31-2005, 12:10 AM #4Originally Posted by MuscleQuest
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03-31-2005, 12:11 AM #5
i also feel this is an ultimate cutter without such high side effects
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03-31-2005, 12:18 AM #6
throw in some more juice and let me know when you get a liver transplant beside the roid monkey , use test i like eq, winny, anavar and test when you throwin 8 different roids you dont necessarily get a better effect than using three or 4 compounds reminds me of that video of that guy who almost died . if you wanna cut and get ripped eat smart and get your self some good nike shoes and start running in the jungle next to sallu the monkey. people call me weird but i think im just a little different .
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03-31-2005, 12:18 AM #7Originally Posted by saluu
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03-31-2005, 12:21 AM #8
that is not a good cycle
thats way too much junk..you dont need all that. your 190 man, not 290
the prop looks fine
ditch the eq and primo
run either var then masteron , winny then masteron, or vice versa of either..dont run var and winny, dont run winny and masteron at the same time
you seem to have the idea all this stuff will rip you
jsut get a good diet, cut the cals, and add a simple cycle to harden up a bit and retain the mass
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03-31-2005, 12:22 AM #9
diff. drugs have diff. effects the compounds im using all compliment each other and are fairly lite compared to others
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03-31-2005, 12:24 AM #10
you need to research more. thats about one of the crappiest cycles ive seen. your pluggin in what you think youve read is great to cut with. they have slightly different effect
they all compliment each other huh..ok prove it to me since you know all about them
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03-31-2005, 12:24 AM #11
have u guys seen mallets cycle its insane massive amounts of diff. gear why is that okay.
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03-31-2005, 12:26 AM #12Originally Posted by Billy_Bathgate
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03-31-2005, 12:28 AM #13
i wouldnt be a mod if i havent been
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03-31-2005, 12:29 AM #14
so if youve done so much research, tell me why this is good again
not "because mallet is"
tell me why you think you should run 2 17-aa together, why you should run 2 stong DHT derivatives together, why you would run eq and primo without test
like i said..research
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03-31-2005, 12:31 AM #15Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
lets see
Originally Posted by MalletOriginally Posted by Mallet
and then you...lean mass and serious definition and extreme hardness (the ripped looked) 190 5,9' 13-15% b/f 4 cycles
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03-31-2005, 12:32 AM #16
if you wanna waste your money, potentially jeopordize your health, all for a poorly designed cycle
**** it go ahead
but all the other people that are here to learn, can read this and learn from it
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03-31-2005, 12:33 AM #17
and next time before you wanna call out a mod and ask them if they've done their research, think twice so you dont look like a jack ass again
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03-31-2005, 01:36 AM #18Associate Member
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SNAP!!
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03-31-2005, 03:26 AM #19
i am using test read again
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03-31-2005, 08:46 AM #20Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
im starting primo and eq 4 weeks before the prop
keep diggin your hole deeper
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03-31-2005, 09:16 AM #21
Wow, that's alot of random compounds. You'd be better off for the money dropping the primo and adding some T3 to your clen cycle and even some IGF-1 LR3. Primo is too expensive and pretty much worthless IMO. No need for EQ, either. I'd stick with Test prop, Var, masteron , clen, T3 and only run the var the last 8 weeks. Keep it at 12 weeks total and you won't need any HCG . Also, running clen during pct is fine, but I wouldn't try to cut during pct as far as your diet goes.
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03-31-2005, 09:24 AM #22Originally Posted by joevette
and Prop/Var/Mast is a pimp combo
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03-31-2005, 09:27 AM #23Originally Posted by taiboxa
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03-31-2005, 09:33 AM #24
thanks joe for the first serious reply everyone else has been basically bashing this post i have used all these compounds b-4 and like them all so i wanted to do a cycle consisting of all this gear compared to the cycles that some do this is lightweight
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03-31-2005, 09:43 AM #25
The winny is not run long enough
The EQ is not run long enough
Like they all said ditch a few compounds, and run 3 or 4 of them at the proper lengths and doses.
Seems like your just throwing stuff in there randomly for 3-4 weeks at a time.
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03-31-2005, 10:43 AM #26Originally Posted by Consistency
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03-31-2005, 10:59 AM #27Originally Posted by joevette
i take it u dont hang out in the lounge enuff or you woulda known this
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03-31-2005, 11:07 AM #28Originally Posted by taiboxa
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03-31-2005, 11:09 AM #29Originally Posted by joevette
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03-31-2005, 12:31 PM #30
[QUOTE=juiceinthehood]the eq and primo are 14 weeks the winni is run a total of 8 weeks 4 weeks front end 4 weeks back end
Oh I see, the EQ is started a week "minus 4" gotcha. I would still run the winny 6 straight weeks
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03-31-2005, 01:11 PM #31Originally Posted by taiboxa
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03-31-2005, 01:17 PM #32Originally Posted by joevette
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03-31-2005, 02:11 PM #33
thanks guys any more comments
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03-31-2005, 03:28 PM #34Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
everyone has said the same thing i have..you dont need all that crap
if you would actually research, it would be obvious why its not a good idea
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03-31-2005, 03:33 PM #35Originally Posted by Billy_Bathgate
maybe since ur a "mod' you should be more helpful and not start bashing my post just cause ur a mod does not give u the right to respond to my post the way u did from start.
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03-31-2005, 03:46 PM #36
obviously you havent done your research.
lets see
1) you want to frontload EQ and Primo..first off is a waste frontloading those drugs
2) when you do frontload, you want to run it 4wks without test
3) your 190 lbs yet you think you need high doses because another member who is shooting for the 290 area is
4) your running var for 12wks, 2 4 week courses of winstrol on top of that
5) running two dht derivatives at once
6)i also feel this is an ultimate cutter without such high side effects
my first reply was
that is not a good cycle
thats way too much junk..you dont need all that. your 190 man, not 290
the prop looks fine
ditch the eq and primo
run either var then masteron , winny then masteron, or vice versa of either..dont run var and winny, dont run winny and masteron at the same time
you seem to have the idea all this stuff will rip you
jsut get a good diet, cut the cals, and add a simple cycle to harden up a bit and retain the mass
keep it coming
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03-31-2005, 03:48 PM #37Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
lets here it
why is it a good idea to have 2 orals going, why it is a good idea to run winny and masteron when they are so chemically similar????? and why the hell would you front load primo and eq without even having test...this will be a good one
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03-31-2005, 04:04 PM #38Originally Posted by Billy_Bathgate
and im frontloading the eq and primo to get a full 14 weeks on them without extending the cycle and so pct lines up
why is it a problem to front eq and primo two light compounds primo virtually has very little effect on ur hpta if any and eq is also lite on the hpta from what i have read. will it really be a problem to run primo and eq for 4 weeks before i start the test.
you seem to want to argue whats ur problem! im here to discuss this being that it is a steroid discussion board thats what we do here. is it that hard to be helpful without being so freekin rude.
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03-31-2005, 04:07 PM #39
I want juice just to pick a d@mn cycle already... Half of all his posts are his next cycle... Please pick a cycle and do it this time...
Meso has lots of love for juice juice dont feel insulted cause meso just wants you to start already and put on your nikes and run through the jungle with saluu the roid monkey...
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03-31-2005, 04:11 PM #40Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
i just want to do something diff. to get my physique to a diff. level.
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