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    Answer For Noobs

    This article is an FAQ designed to help you by providing information and suggestions that will increase basic Anabolic /Androgenic Steroids (AAS) usage knowledge. You will then have a much better understanding of what is being suggested in topics on the forum and the reasons behind the advice. Please bear in mind that there is very often no right or wrong answers when discussing AAS usage and a variety of possible solutions/cycles/answers may be given. Ultimately, it is your body, and you are responsible for what AAS are used and when they are used so it stands to reason that personal knowledge is imperative.

    As I'm sure you can appreciate, there are a range of recurring questions which tend to be asked by every prospective steroid user:

    What should I take?
    When shall I take it?
    What day shall I take it?
    What will I gain?
    Shall I buy from a website?
    Orals or Injectables?

    At this point we assume you've taken the decision to use steroids , but have no idea what they are and what they do. Read on…

    What are Steroids?
    Testosterone is the main male sex hormone which is naturally produced by the human body. Steroids are a synthetic form of testosterone or its derivatives. Bodybuilders mainly use testosterone. Testosterone is what you can thank for Strength and Size.

    Am I old enough?
    Yes if you're over 21, No if you're under. You run the risks of premature closing of growth plates which means you won't get any taller and your shoulders won't get wider, etc. if you use them too young. Your endocrine system is also at a vital stage in your life, which should incidentally provide you with plenty of natural testosterone anyway!

    Of course there are other considerations such as training experience of the individual. For example, it would be unwise for a 25 year old who has been training only a few months to want to use steroids. Their training and diet knowledge are likely to be limited (these should be 100% in check to make 'proper use' of a steroid cycle). Not only that, but there will be massive potential for natural gains, without the need to even think about steroids!

    Which steroid should I take?
    By spending time browsing through old posts as well as learning from current ones, you will start to become familiar with not only the different steroid names and typical dosages, but also how they are used towards a particular goal. This will provide you with a 'shortlist' of possible steroids that can be further researched to ascertain whether the effects/side effects are acceptable to you. A good point of reference for this purpose would be:

    I hate needles, can I just take pills?
    You've decided to take steroids, now the next thing to decide is whether you should take tablets or inject? What's the difference? Let's look at each in turn: Well the obvious difference is that one is swallowed, the other is injected. But let's be more specific; most oral steroids are hepatotoxic (i.e. toxic to the liver). As the tablet/pill travels through the body it passes through the gastrointestinal tract, then to the liver which has a mission to destroy it, thus preventing the steroid from entering the bloodstream. As a result, scientific boffins replaced the hydrogen atom with a carbon atom to the 17th position of the steroid molecule, which for the most part, will enable the steroid to survive the first pass hepatic metabolism. This process is commonly referred to as 17-alpha alkylation (17-AA or C-17).

    Whilst this alkylation is desirable for the athlete in terms of improving the bio-availability of the oral steroid, it does however, place undue stress on the liver. Liver values (a set of markers which are used to assess liver function) may be elevated whilst using 17-aa steroids and as such, they are generally used sparingly to compliment an injectable cycle. Certain nutritional supplement products are often used for liver protection:

    Milk Thistle
    ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid)
    Injectable Steroids are not for intravenous use (into the vein). Doing this could result in serious injury or even death. They must be injected intra-muscularly (into the muscle) and therefore avoid the 'first pass' through the liver; though some the harsher steroids will place a strain on the kidneys in large doses.

    There are two main different types of injectable steroids: Water or oil based. Water based steroids are metabolised quickly, requiring frequent (often daily) injections. Oil based ones are released more slowly into the bloodstream and are generally injected once or twice weekly.

    Where do I inject?
    Glutes and quads are the 'normal' places for injections as they are large muscle groups, though other sites can be used, particularly for heavier cycles where there is a greater volume of oil being used each week.A good, sterile technique is well worth emphasising as this can avoid experiences ranging from abcesses to death (yes, it really is that serious!). If the proper procedure is implemented, then the occurrence of abcesses can be substancially reduced and death is avoided completely.

    Step by step instructions can be found via the following link for more spots to inject:

    What's an Ester?
    A Steroid Ester refers to the chain of carbons attached to the steroid molecule at the 17th position. The longer the chain, the greater the time taken for the steroid to be released into the bloodstream. Testosterone propionate , for example, is a relatively short chain ester and therefore makes the parent hormone fast acting and requiring more frequent injections. The opposite is the case for longer chain esters e.g. enanthate , cypionate , undecanoate.

    What should I take?
    An example of a beginner's cycle might be 8 weeks of testosterone at 500mg per week. The testosterone would be injected twice per week, i.e. one ampoule of 250mg on Monday, the other on Thursday

    When shall I take it?
    It makes absolutely no difference what time of day you inject. Whatever suits you.

    Injection frequency - Aim for Mon/Thu for longer acting esters (sustanon , enanthate, cypionate, deca ). These could be injected just once per week for the needle-shy, though twice is better for even blood concentration levels.

    Dianabol are to be taken daily and, as they have a short half life of just a few hours, they are split throughout the day, every 4 hours or so. Take them with meals to avoid possible gastro-intestinal discomfort.

    Steroid Half Lifes and Detection Times

    Ancillaries Drug Active half-life

    Arimidex 3 days
    Clenbuterol 1.5 days
    Clomid 5 days
    Cytadren 6 hours
    Ephedrine 6 hours
    T3 10 hours

    Drug Half-Life:

    Clenbuterol 1.5 days
    Anavar 9 hours
    Stanozolol (oral) 9 hours
    Methyltest 4 days
    Stanozolol (injectable) 1 day
    Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
    Dianabol 4.5 hours
    Testosterone Suspension 1 day

    Here are the half-lives for any of the following steroid esters:

    Ester Half-Life

    Formate 1.5 days
    Acetate 3 days
    Propionate 4.5 days
    Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
    Butyrate 6 days
    Valerate 7.5 days
    Hexanoate 9 days
    Caproate 9 days
    Isocaproate 9 days
    Heptanoate 10.5 days
    Enanthate 10.5 days
    Octanoate 12 days
    Cypionate 12 days
    Nonanoate 13.5 days
    Decanoate 15 days
    Undecanoate 16.5 days

    Detection times for AAS

    Anavar 3 weeks
    Anadrol 2 months
    Andriol 1 week
    Clenbuterol 4-5 Days
    Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate) 18 months
    Dianabol 5 weeks
    Durabolin (Nandrolone Phenylpropionate) 12 months
    Ephedrin 6-10 Days
    Equipoise (Boldenone Undecyclenate) 4-5 months
    Halotestin 2 months
    Primobolin Depot 4-5 weeks
    Proviron 5 weeks
    Sustanon 3 months
    Test cypionate 3 months
    Test enanathate 3 months
    Test Propionate 2-3 weeks
    Test supspenison No metabolites. t/e should
    be back to normal in days
    Tremolon Acetetate 4-5 weeks
    Winstrol oral (Stanazol) 3 weeks
    Winstrol inj (Stanazol) 2 months .

    Factors which influence the detection times

    Fluid intake
    Tolerance to the drug
    Frequency of intake
    Duration of intake
    Body fat
    Potency of drug

    Should I buy steroids from a website?
    Never buy from an online website offering steroids. Most will be either scammers or will selling you fakes - or both! Keep yourself safe and from losing your hard earned cash -always have your prospective source checked first by a MOD

    What will I gain?
    Almost impossible to answer, as everyone is different, and there are a multitude of variables that will affect the amount of gains witnessed such as:

    Type of steroid and amounts used
    Length of cycle
    Cycle experience - early career cycles tend to yield greater gains purely because there is greater scope for those gains
    Training, diet & rest!
    What's a Frontload / Kickstart?
    A 'frontload' is used to reach peak blood concentration levels much sooner than would otherwise be possible. Double your normal weekly dose will be injected in the first week or two, depending on the drug's particular half-life (the half-life is the time taken for the body to metabolise and excrete half of the drug). So if your cycle was to use 500mg testosterone enanthate weekly, you would frontload 1,000mg during the first week.

    An oral 'kickstart' describes the use of a fast acting oral until your injectables reach their peak, i.e. 30mg of Dianabol taken for the first 4 weeks.

    What are Anti-Es?
    Anti-Es are anti-oestrogens (or as the Americans say 'estrogens'). Certain steroids aromatise to oestrogen through the aromatase enzyme which can lead to undesirable side-effects. Oestrogen, after all is the dominant female hormone. By employing anti-Es you can reduce the chances of experiencing oestrogenic side-effects such as water retention and gyno (explained below). Proviron and Anastrozole (Arimidex and other guises) attempt to halt the aromatisation from occurring. Nolvadex however, will occupy the oestrogen receptor which renders much of the existing circulating oestrogen inert.

    The varying anti-E ancillaries are therefore generally used to counter negative side effects of AAS usage. Choice of ancillary depends on many factors including:

    AAS used & dosage/length of cycle
    Susceptibility of user to sides (if already known)
    Degree of risk/sides the user deems acceptable
    Any pre-existing conditions

    What's Gyno?
    Gynecomastia is the build up of glandular tissue under the breast, and is an oestrogenic side-effect. Puffy, itchy or sore nipples are often early symptoms. This condition is often referred to by the slang term 'bitch tits'. Established gyno will normally require surgery for correction - needless to say, 'prevention is better than the cure!'

    What's PCT?
    PCT stands for Post Cycle Therapy , and is what you do when you've finished your cycle to restore natural testosterone production. This is essential if you want to stand a good chance of retaining gains. Nolvadex, Clomid and sometimes HCG are the drugs used for pct. For a good example of pct check out this link: Pheedno's PCT

    Will this cycle have any effect on my sex drive? Gotta keep the missus happy!
    You'll turn into a porn star! You'll think about it 24/7! Generally you'll feel like a Sex God! Joking aside, you should generally experience an increase in libido especially if using strong androgens, though effects between individuals do vary. If do you experience any loss of interest, or you experience problems maintaining an erection (notorious with certain steroids), the drug Proviron is often used as a counter-active measure.

    taken from muscletalk but modified a little by GOATNUTS.

    please keep this bumped to the top

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    Getting madcow treatments
    Now someones an over achiever.

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    stealing peoples work then putting your name on it??? tsk tsk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH
    stealing peoples work then putting your name on it??? tsk tsk... did i steal peoples work and put my name on it. i gave them credit for it but i added some of my own stuff to it that why i put my name in it...

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    i was just kidding... i saw..

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    Good post helped me get some of the research to sink in

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    goat nuts way to milk the system
    good post keep it up

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    Good info.

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    good shit.

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    Do you know the NORWAY?
    keep it up

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    good post

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