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05-19-2005, 03:44 PM #1
I have gaind 30 pounds! Am I going to loose it all?
So am I going to loose everything? I have been working out since I was 15 not body builder hard but keeping in good shape. Two years ago I did my first cycle deca debol stack and gained 35 pounds from 160 - 195. Hear I started working out body builder hard and I started dieting properly. A month and a half after I was done my cycle I messed my shoulder up and had to go for surgery (patched up rotator cuff with a few pins). After I was done 4 months of physio from my should surgery I started to hit the gym again. At this point at was at 185 pounds with a nice little ponch. I then hit they gym hard for two months. Then I did a huge order of juice for some friends and ended up with a good size cycle almost for free. I then ran 150mg of deca a week for a month to help the shoulder with recovery. After this month my shoulder was feeling great and I started my full cycle. 300mg deca wk, and 400mg test cyp wk. I am on week 9 of that cycle and I have another 6 weeks left of just Test. 1 week of cyp at 400mg and five weeks of Eth at 500mg. I am already at 207 and I am leaning out nicely now. What can I do to keep as much of this as possible? I am not some punk that thought that I could just get big quick. I am ready to keep working hard and continue keeping my diet in check. I will even stop my cycle if I am just going to loose it anyways. What do you guys think should I stop my cycle sell my last bottle of Eth keep working hard loose everything and start O natural till I hit my genetic threshold? Or should I finish and just hope that I keep some of these gains?
Last edited by SilverBack_69; 05-19-2005 at 03:47 PM.
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05-19-2005, 04:26 PM #2
you will loose all of them...all...you might even be less.....
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05-19-2005, 04:31 PM #3
Ok so do I stop my cycle or what?
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05-19-2005, 04:33 PM #4
Not so fast.
Bro, you might want to wait on some actual advice from an established member or even a senior member first.
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05-19-2005, 04:39 PM #5Originally Posted by cdogge
With proper PCT, and by that I mean,
Correct PCT should consist of:
wk 1-2 Clomid 100mg/ED
wk 2-4 Clomid 50mg/ED
wk 1-4 Nolva 20mg/ED
wk 1-4 Creatine 5g/ED
wk 1-4 Tribulas 4g/ED
wk 1-4 L-Glutamine 10mg/ED
MultiVitimins and 1000mg/ED Vit V should also be included with Omega-3's and a Zinc and Magnesium supplement.
You must (I STRESS MUST) keep your clories up during PCT, get a good whey or weight gainer and keep the calories up! The Creatine/L-Glutamine will help retain any stregnth gains you made whilst "on".
Train hard and eat hard and expect to keep 70-100% of your gains,
Good luck
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05-19-2005, 04:42 PM #6
dude thats an essay one!! take your fuken pct and you should keep most of it!! try HCG and Clomid and i think that should do it but bigswiftos plan sounds better but try to add HCG cause that i hear works wonders!!!
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05-19-2005, 04:51 PM #7
How long is your cycle? 15 weeks?
HCG can be used but usually for longer cycles, 16+ weeks. I'd just carry out normal PCT (as above) IMO.
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05-19-2005, 05:55 PM #8
holy shit....I thought it was pretty obvious I was kidding ( I guess not)
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05-19-2005, 06:04 PM #9Originally Posted by bigswiftos
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05-19-2005, 06:24 PM #10Associate Member
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Agreed.
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05-19-2005, 06:31 PM #11Originally Posted by bigswiftos
Im a firm believer in test but without something else in there like winny..ect it is extremely hard to keep gains but not impossible. So if you dont plan on being serious about pct then I would definitely stop now, in fact I you should have made sure you have nolvadex , clomid ..ect(and enough money to buy a lot of food) before you even started your cycle.
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05-19-2005, 06:34 PM #12
One more thing, why are you going to start running test e this late in the cycle, I may be mistaken but you might mess up your levels if you switch. You need to give test e some time.
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05-19-2005, 06:35 PM #13Originally Posted by cdogge
swiftos got it right
you'll be ok
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05-19-2005, 06:55 PM #14
Thanks guys! Some post I read in hear earlier today scared me into thinking I was going to lose it all even if I did a proper PCT! I switched to the Eth because it comes in 250mg not 200mg like cyp and I wanted to up my dose from 400mg wk to 500mg wk when I stopped my deca . I was told in hear that this was all good because Cyp and Eth are almost identical.
So if my bro has some HCG then:
last two weeks of my cycle 500ui of HCG twice a week
Allready have this stuff:
wk 1-2 Clomid 100mg/ED
wk 2-4 Clomid 50mg/ED
wk 1-4 Nolva 20mg/ED
wk 1-4 Creatine 5g/ED
wk 1-4 Tribulas 4g/ED
wk 1-4 L-Glutamine 10mg/ED
and I will have to add the Omega-3's.
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05-19-2005, 07:16 PM #15Originally Posted by SilverBack_69
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05-19-2005, 07:18 PM #16
And if you have all your pct then your straight, just keep yourself motivated an on point, dont slack on the pct toward the end. Good luck bro. Let us know how it works out
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05-19-2005, 07:27 PM #17Associate Member
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Originally Posted by cdogge
People are too serious around here i guess.. i almost posted the same joke you did Luckily i didnt!!
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05-19-2005, 08:56 PM #18
everyone seems a bit stressed after the mind of ross debacle....
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05-19-2005, 09:03 PM #19Originally Posted by Big Vick
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05-19-2005, 09:45 PM #20Associate Member
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just do some pct and you will be fine
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05-19-2005, 09:54 PM #21Senior Member
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Originally Posted by cdogge
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05-19-2005, 10:18 PM #22Banned
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Run pct and you should be able to keep alot of your gains.
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05-20-2005, 10:21 AM #23Originally Posted by bigswiftos
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