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    First Cycle concerns

    Hey guys just had a couple of questions about my first cycle. im 5'9 145, have an excellent diet, and great training and i wanna gain 15-20lbs (after losing water). Because this is my first cycle, I have decided to take Sustanon , and will stack it with winny. Keeping in mind that I want to puton max 20lbs of hard, ripped muscle, is this the correct cycle i shud be doing? How long should I do this cycle for, when shud i put in winny, and what doses should i be taking? I want to absoluetly minimize all side effects so i will take nolva during, and clomid after, is there anything else i shud take ( i dont mind spending extra couple hundred bucks if it can prevent side effects). Should i be worrying about possible hair loss or gyno with this cycle? Also, is it possible for me, with these types of goals, do run a EQ/winny cycle? Thanks for all the help guys, i need all the information u can give me.

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    [QUOTE=heyhey] im 5'9 145, have an excellent diet, and great training /QUOTE]

    You sure about that?

    Post your diet bro

    I think it'll prove to be sub par if your 145lbs

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    ******165lbs, my mistake

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    you base frame is still nto big enough try to get up to around 190 before the start of AAS. just going to hurt yourself in the joints and ligaments because with your cycle you will most likely blow up and your ligaments will not be able to keep up.

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    winny with 250? a bulker with a cutter...
    replace your cycle

    here is one for starters..

    1-4 dbol 35/mg ed
    1-12 sus 250 500/mg week
    1-8 tren 100/mg eod
    13-18 winny 50/mg week
    13-18 nolva 20/mg ed

    good luck in the future

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    First cycle??, how long have you trained for??

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaFreaK

    here is one for starters..

    1-4 dbol 35/mg ed
    1-12 sus 250 500/mg week
    1-8 tren 100/mg eod
    13-18 winny 50/mg week
    13-18 nolva 20/mg ed
    Tren?
    100mg?
    EOD?
    First cycle?

    I WOULDN'T!!

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    Sheesh, these "beginner" cycles are really getting out of hand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaFreaK
    winny with 250? a bulker with a cutter...
    replace your cycle

    here is one for starters..

    1-4 dbol 35/mg ed
    1-12 sus 250 500/mg week
    1-8 tren 100/mg eod
    13-18 winny 50/mg week
    13-18 nolva 20/mg ed

    good luck in the future
    That's not a beginer cycle lol

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    There are many people on this forum able to give you good advice on beginners cycles

    However,
    The best advice for you at this time is research the diet and training forums

    You ain't ready for the juice yet bro

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    i gotta agree with ant.... start with diet and training... u will be amazed at the gains u can make with a tight diet.... almost anyone will have advice for u on a "beginers" cycle.... that don't mean it's right for u...

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    Whoooow,, I remember when a beginners cycle was just winny and perhaps some test, So for your first cycle I would recomend 50mg of winny eod and 500mg/week of some test (not sustanon ) 8 weeks!!

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