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    More Nolva or try L-Dex?

    Cycle -
    wk 1-04 Dbol 35mg ED
    wk 1-12 Test E 500mg /wk
    wk 3-10 Tren 50-75mg ED

    PCT -
    wk 01-14 Nolvadex 10mg ED
    wk 14-16 Nolvadex 20mg ED
    wk 14-16 Clomid (100/100/50) mg ED

    I'm at the begining of week 6 right now and, along with showing significant size and strength gains, am developing a lump beside/beneath my right nipple. Last week I bumped the Nolva to 20mg ed, but I want to stop this onset of gyno in its tracks.

    Do I...

    a) bump Nolva to 60mg ed for a couple of weeks
    b) buy some L-Dex and do, say, 0.5mg every day until done (bottle from AR-R )

    Other advice welcome as well. Thanks.

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    If it were me i would do both, increase the nolva dosage and run l-dex at .5 mg every day, just to be safe.

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    You should def up the nolva to 80mg ED until symptoms go away........ then run it at 20mg ED untill the end of the cycle and PCT. You should also run an AI like letro (1.25mg EOD) or l-dex (.25mg ED) to help with test aromatizing into estrogen.

    You should also add 200mg of B6 in case the tren starts raising prolactin levels.

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    Thanks for the quick advice! Much appreciated.

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    Will this suggested therapy make the lump go away entirely, reduce it significantly, stop it from growing more or just slow it's progress?

    Thanks.

    *edit - and what do you think will be required, time wise, for running 80mg ed of Nolva? Curious for ordering quantities from AR-R . 1 bottle would last me 12.5 days @ 80mg ed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godspeed
    Will this suggested therapy make the lump go away entirely, reduce it significantly, stop it from growing more or just slow it's progress?

    Thanks.

    *edit - and what do you think will be required, time wise, for running 80mg ed of Nolva? Curious for ordering quantities from AR-R. 1 bottle would last me 12.5 days @ 80mg ed.
    Increasing the dose to 80mg per day should reduce the lumps size and hopefully get rid of it. Run the 80mg dose till it goes away bro. Then drop to 20mg. I would also run l-dex/letro with this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godspeed
    Will this suggested therapy make the lump go away entirely, reduce it significantly, stop it from growing more or just slow it's progress?

    Thanks.

    *edit - and what do you think will be required, time wise, for running 80mg ed of Nolva? Curious for ordering quantities from AR-R. 1 bottle would last me 12.5 days @ 80mg ed.
    You might be able to shrink the lump with letro at 2.5mg ED but since you developed a lump and the gland is still there anytime there's an uptake of estrogen and it needs a plce to bind it will bind to the ER and the lump will grow again.

    Nolva will bindto the ER and keep estrogen from binding to that area.

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    Would you suggest letro over l-dex?

    *edit - Do you think 12 days @ 80mg will be enough for the Nolva, or should I get 2 bottles?

    Last two questions (above), I swear!
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    Curious about the quantity of Nolva most likely needed. I want to place the order ASAP and would like to know if 12 days @ 80mg is enough, or if I should order two bottles.

    Thanks.

    I'll be ordering Letro as well.

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    If you have a lump then yes I would suggest letro to reduce it............ Def get 2 bottles of Nolva.

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    Perfect. Thanks a ton, bro.

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    Sorry, I lied, one more question...

    Should I take the 80mg of Nolva in 4 successive shots, or is it better to split it up 20/20/20/20 throughout the day?

    Again, this is using AR-R 's Tamox solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godspeed
    Sorry, I lied, one more question...

    Should I take the 80mg of Nolva in 4 successive shots, or is it better to split it up 20/20/20/20 throughout the day?

    Again, this is using AR-R's Tamox solution.
    Run it all at once no need to split it up because of the half-life.

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    Thanks!

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    sorry bro, hey Mud, would he/I be okay if he/I started out with the Letro? i mean, would there be any need at that point for Nolva, except PCT? also, is B6 comparable to bromo/caber for the prolactin issue, and if so, at what doses?

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