Thread: Need a sanity check plz
04-17-2002, 10:40 PM #1
Need a sanity check plz
Ok, I started my cycle today, first shot of Tren and Sust in the shoulder. Had a buddy pop it for me, fucker looked like he was paying darts . Wasn't near as bad as I had hyped myself up for.
So, I was looking at my cycle again and had a couple of questions about it. Here it is:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fina Sust Dbol Clen ECA Winstrol Clomid LiquidX Week1 75mg ED 500 35mg ED X 3xED .25ED Week2 75mg ED 500 35mg ED X 3xED .25ED Week3 75mg ED 500 35mg ED 3xED .25ED Week4 75mg ED 500 3xED .25ED Week5 75mg ED 500 X 3xED .25ED Week6 75mg ED 500 X 3xED .25ED Week7 75mg ED 500 3xED 50mg ED .25ED Week8 75mg ED 500 3xED 50mg ED .25ED Week9 75mg ED 500 3xED 50mg ED .25ED Week10 75mg ED 500 X 3xED 50mg ED .25ED Week11 X 3xED 50mg ED .25ED Week12 3xED 50mg ED .25ED Week13 3xED X .25ED Week14 X 3xED X .25ED Week15 X 3xED X .25ED week16 .25ED week17 .25ED --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Another question would be should I attempt to change this to a 12 week cycle for the Sust and Fina? I have plenty of gear so that isn't an issue.
As stated before my stats are:
28 Year old Male
195 lbs (gained some back)
I train 5 days a week, depending on what my body is telling me. Cardio at least 3 days for an hour on the bike.
My goal is to cut up somewhat and increase strength.
Thanks everyone for any and all advice, the knowlede on this board is awsome.
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04-17-2002, 10:47 PM #2AR-Hall of Famer / Retired
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that is one harsh cycle, is this ur first cycle???
04-17-2002, 10:48 PM #3
Not a bad looking cycle.
How many cycles have you done prior to this?
04-17-2002, 10:52 PM #4G-S Guest
Pretty heavy cycle, IMO. Hope it';s not your first. And, tell us how that shoulder feels tommorrow, when the SUST pain kicks in.
04-17-2002, 10:53 PM #5
Yup, it is my first. I know it's a lotta jabs, however I was thinking of EQ at first instead of the Fina but would have ended up jabbing damn near as much anyway (50mg/ml @ 600 WK).
I have been thinking about a cycle for several years now, and finaly I fealt it was time. So, I figured since the first is supposedly the best I would go all out.
04-17-2002, 10:56 PM #6
Heh, I figure the Sust will hurt in the AM, I did however do my best to take care of it. I double filtered and then sterilized the Tren , low BA content as well to begin with. So after mixing the shot (Tren and Sust) I hope it will help with the pain. We shall see
04-17-2002, 10:57 PM #7
04-17-2002, 10:59 PM #8
as a general rule bro, the more you use the more you have to use.
tren is a harsh drug bro, usually for advanced trainers only. simply using t200 for your first cycle would be plenty. its kinda like using morphine for a simple headache when an asprin would do the job just as well, only with out the sides. follow me?
04-17-2002, 11:01 PM #9
04-17-2002, 11:04 PM #10AR-Hall of Famer / Retired
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to much in my opinion or exp, you dont need all that more juice is not more gains it doesnt work that way. I would drop out the dbol for a start if you are only lookin to get cut and not build mass I would run test not sust but thats just me fina and winnie at the end also the eca but i wouldnt run dbol at the start you will get strong from the fina already. So to clarify I would do more like prop and fina mixed also run the clen and eca as you have and the armidex run the fina prop for not more than 10 weeks just what i think some might not agree some will say less, run the winnie weeks 5-10. I think is this is ur first you are goin in head first thinking more is better how and where did u come up with your ideas? what research got u to that conclusion? no flame bro buts its much more a pro cycle not for the first timer in my eyes
04-17-2002, 11:12 PM #11
OJ, I have been reading a good bit on this and several other boards, also talking to friends. I realize friends and the written word are not always as they seem so I try my best to be objective.
I posted this cycle as well as a similar one here over the last 3 or so weeks for feedback. After reading up it did seem to be a good cycle, albiet strong. Hey, I by NO means am an expert thats why I'm here asking for any and all advice. I like to get everyones opinion and weigh them out. This seemed like the most logical way to go about it to me at least.
I'm up for the knowlege, even though I have already poped the first shot doesn't mean I can't modify it. It seems to be a consensus on the Dbol so it's outa here for this cycle, I'll stop munching them in the AM.
Thanks for yalls time,
04-18-2002, 12:28 AM #12
how about this bro.
eq at 400mgs per week, sust at 500mgs per week, both for 10 weeks. winny at 50 mgs per day weeks 7-12.
04-18-2002, 12:43 AM #13AR-Hall of Famer / Retired
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yeah thats cool go with BK suggestion its more like a good first time cycle. I know what its like when u r first starting u want to try every juice going lol but like I said not more is better quality rather than quantity, get your diet and training right and you will do really well im sure it doesnt have to be massive amounts of drugs, beleive me your physical well being will appreciate it in the end
04-18-2002, 11:27 AM #14
Well, that was my original plan actually. I only have half the EQ I need and it's 50mg/ml.
How does cutting the Fina to EOD sound?
My arm doesn't hurt at all from yesterday.
04-18-2002, 07:16 PM #15
i personally love the cycle and it looks like it has been well planned out.
i agree on what bk,and oj are saying,you dont need that much.
or that kind of juice yet.
but if you have it and you are going to do it lets plan it out so that you will be as safe as possible.
first of all lose the dbol .tren is fast acting and you dont need it
cut the tren back to 8 wks and hit it every other day
leave the winny where it is.that is the perfect timing for the sus to expire and you can jump on clomid 2 days out.
04-18-2002, 07:27 PM #16
I aggree with 4plates, cycle looks great and well planned. Id drop the dBol too.
You thought about acne from this cycle? Sust/Fina/dBol mean combo for acne bro.
Gotta give you props on this being your first cycle. Your just like me, go Heavy or Go Home. But BigKev IS right, you're taking morphine when a asprin would do the trick here.
None the less, keep us posted on your progress.
04-18-2002, 08:26 PM #17
Cool guys, thanks for the advice. I have cut the Dbol , 8 weeks for the Fina sounds good and it will be EOD.
Acne, lol, well Maybe it is coincedence(sp??) but I noticed my face was oily as FUCK today. I'll be washing my face big time. I'm already some what of a clean freak so 2 showers a day is the norm. I also tan alot so I think that will help some.
I guess if it gets to that point the Tetracycaline(sp?) would probably be the next course of action. Any other advice about the acne?
I appreciate the advice so far, any more comments are welcome!
04-19-2002, 12:00 AM #18Junior Member
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listen to Big Kev. He knows his shit. He gave me the same advice 10 weeks ago(except I went w/ cyp) and here I sit 24 pounds bigger and cutting hard on the winny. I had roughly the same stats as you. There is no reason to put your body thru any unnecessary abuse. Just my experience from my first cycle. best of luck regardless of which AS you choose.
04-19-2002, 10:35 AM #19
Yup I had already decided to do ED injections of 1/2cc. Thanks for pointing that out though bud.
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