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    startn new cycle need help

    i have cypionate an qv bold never done cycle need to learn

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    ok, age? training for how long? diet?

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    cljgard

    im 33 ben trianing 10 years weight 235

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    ok, IMO if you want to run your first cycle I would run
    1 – 10 Test Cyp 400mg/wk
    1 – 12 Nolva 10mg ED


    Start PCT 18 days after last Test Cyp injection

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    high pro low carb

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    youre going to need to eat around 5,000 cal and about 1.5g of pro per lb of bodyweight and up the carbs, go visit the diet section for more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by cljgard
    high pro low carb
    I wouldn't go low carb if you're looking to put on some serious mass.

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    wut should i take 4 pct an how an wen

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    Bro have you read the PCT forum?

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    im tryn to lean up i hav done cypio b 4 an put sum size but i just bot an took
    an never followed a cycle

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    yes 4 sum reason ant getn it

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    Ok, PCT start times are different depending on what AS you use. PCT normally includes the use of clomid and nolva, even some l-dex. And depending on how long your cycle was is how long you run PCT. Cycles 8-16 weeks you run it for 30 days anything else longer you need to run it differently.

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    ok i got both so nolva every day at start of cycle. an clomid end of cycle
    how much

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    oh an it will b a 12 week cycle

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    read the cycle I posted earlier in the thread & you can run it for 12 weeks if youd like, that'll tell you what you run ED. For PCT run this

    Day 1-30 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
    read the cycle I posted earlier in the thread & you can run it for 12 weeks if youd like, that'll tell you what you run ED. For PCT run this

    Day 1-30 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

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    ok 4oomg cypionate a week 4 12 weeks
    2omg nolva ed at start of cycle
    100 clomid ed at end of cycle 4 30 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by cljgard
    ok 4oomg cypionate a week 4 12 weeks
    2omg nolva ed at start of cycle
    100 clomid ed at end of cycle 4 30 days
    No like this:
    You can run 400-500mg/wk Test Cyp wks 1-12
    10mg ED Nolva wks 1-12

    PCT start 18 days after last Test Cyp injection which will be
    Day 1-30 100mg Clomid/ED + 20mg Nolva/ED


    ~theJuice~

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    sorry brother if i seem a little slow . just tryn
    understand. thanks brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
    No like this:
    You can run 400-500mg/wk Test Cyp wks 1-12
    10mg ED Nolva wks 1-12

    PCT start 18 days after last Test Cyp injection which will be
    Day 1-30 100mg Clomid/ED + 20mg Nolva/ED


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    got it thanks brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by cljgard
    sorry brother if i seem a little slow . just tryn
    understand. thanks brother
    Its cool bro...everyone here had to learn some way.

    ~theJuice~

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
    Its cool bro...everyone here had to learn some way.

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    wut should i do wit qv bold

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    Wait till your next cycle. What I posted for you is a good 1st cycle. I used it when I did my first cycle and I got good gains.

    ~theJuice~

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
    Wait till your next cycle. What I posted for you is a good 1st cycle. I used it when I did my first cycle and I got good gains.

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    cool thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by cljgard
    cool thanks again
    you got it bro

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