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    Letrozole or tamox?

    no difference or what? also i have some proviron should i just throw it away? after reading its profile it seems pretty useless compared to tamox and letro. And one last question to calm my paranoia...I have a dull pain which i almost hesitate to call pain its more like discomfort where my nut sack connects to my body. I have felt this before but not while on, sometimes noticed it on adderall. Any info would be appreciated , and im sorry for the simple description of the symtoms.

    btw- cycle is dbol 20mg/d
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    2 previous cycles weight-175lbs ht-6ft

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    Letro is more powerful than Tamoxifen i believe, correct me if im wrong.

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    Keep the proviron . Only take it while on cycle. I prefer nolvadex to letro because a lot of letro will kill your sex drive. They are all good but limit the letro. I get pain in the same spot. Your natty test is being shut down and sometimes it feels like you got kicked in the balls.

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    thanks bro...that sucks i never thought test would shut down so quickly!!! will the discomfort go away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality
    thanks bro...that sucks i never thought test would shut down so quickly!!! will the discomfort go away?
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    Yes, I only get it once in while. If your experiencing something different then I would think about going to the Dr. to get checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality
    no difference or what? also i have some proviron should i just throw it away? after reading its profile it seems pretty useless compared to tamox and letro. And one last question to calm my paranoia...I have a dull pain which i almost hesitate to call pain its more like discomfort where my nut sack connects to my body. I have felt this before but not while on, sometimes noticed it on adderall. Any info would be appreciated , and im sorry for the simple description of the symtoms.

    btw- cycle is dbol 20mg/d
    cyp and eq
    2 previous cycles weight-175lbs ht-6ft

    thanks again Reality
    There's a big difference between the two. Letro is an AI and Nolva is a SERM. Letro works by keeping arominization (sp) down (keeps the conversion of test to estrogen down)........... Nolva is tissue specific and will bind to the ER so estrogen will not and cause gyno.

    Proviron has it's place as a anti-e but for the money letro, or l-dex is as good if not better.

    That dull ache you have could also be your prostate swelling...... to be safe you should be running saw palmeto.

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    thanks for the info...so let me be sure i have this straight tamox just blocks certain estrogen receptors but the estrogen is still active...letro works similarily to armidex...and proviron works by preventing amromatization of test to estrogen.
    Here's my situation i started my cycle dbol /cyp/eq...i started taking proviron 2 days into my cycle. does it make sense to take proviron until i get tamox?
    -the dull ache does come and go but i will grab some saw palmeto

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    Quick answer,

    Letro is best
    Then Liquidex
    Then Nolvadex

    Letro stops 97% of aromatisation
    Liquidex stops 80% of aromatisation
    Nolvadex stops 0% of aromatisation

    Nolvadex will only stop the Estrogen from binding
    It will not stop Testosterone from aromatising

    The more Test you stop aromatising, the more Test you have in your system

    i.e More Test available for muscle building

    Just make sure you get the Letro dosage right

    0.75mg-1.25mg EOD will be adequate

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    so on a test cycle, 20mg ed of nolva wud be enuf>

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    Quote Originally Posted by ant_8u
    Quick answer,

    Letro is best
    Then Liquidex
    Then Nolvadex

    Letro stops 97% of aromatisation
    Liquidex stops 80% of aromatisation
    Nolvadex stops 0% of aromatisation

    Nolvadex will only stop the Estrogen from binding
    It will not stop Testosterone from aromatising

    The more Test you stop aromatising, the more Test you have in your system

    i.e More Test available for muscle building

    Just make sure you get the Letro dosage right

    0.75mg-1.25mg EOD will be adequate
    Good info!!!!

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    I would run the proviron , not as an anti-e, but to free my bound test. Proviron binds to SHBG, thereby releaseing more testosterone into an active (free) state in stead of being bound (inactive) to SHBG. JMHO though.

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    thanks again for the info


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    Quote Originally Posted by ant_8u
    Quick answer,

    Letro is best
    Then Liquidex
    Then Nolvadex

    Letro stops 97% of aromatisation
    Liquidex stops 80% of aromatisation
    Nolvadex stops 0% of aromatisation

    Nolvadex will only stop the Estrogen from binding
    It will not stop Testosterone from aromatising

    The more Test you stop aromatising, the more Test you have in your system

    i.e More Test available for muscle building

    Just make sure you get the Letro dosage right

    0.75mg-1.25mg EOD will be adequate
    Thanks for the great read bro!

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    No problemo

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedudez
    so on a test cycle, 20mg ed of nolva wud be enuf>
    hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedudez
    so on a test cycle, 20mg ed of nolva wud be enuf>
    Whilst there are better things you could use, 20mg ed of Nolvadex would be sufficient

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