Thread: steroid effectiveness chart
08-10-2005, 08:55 AM #1
steroid effectiveness chart
everyone on this board seems to recommend Test-e as a good first cycle and i'm not going to disagree.....but why is the rating on the "steroid effectiveness chart" so crappy....the strength and weight gain is very good, the side effects are kinda high...and the ability to keep gains is relatively non-existent
weight gain ****
side effects ***
keep gain *
according to this chart there are several other steroids that would be much more useful, that is if your goal is to maintain strength and weight gains. so is this chart erroneous bullsh!t or what???
08-10-2005, 09:06 AM #2
bump - i wanna know
08-10-2005, 09:16 AM #3Associate Member
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The chart is ****ed up.
08-10-2005, 09:18 AM #4
chart is outdated
08-10-2005, 09:34 AM #5
strength **** is good
weight gain **** is good
side effects *** not everone has alot of side. most people have little sides.
keep gain * this depends on diet and training. also with a first cycle you keep more of the gains.
08-10-2005, 09:48 AM #6Originally Posted by gsxxr
08-10-2005, 09:49 AM #7Originally Posted by gsxxr
those charts are outdated. The weight gain and strength gains are good. Most people have little sides from test, unless they start running super high doses. Keeping gains is all dependant on diet, training and PCT protocol and this applies to most steroids
08-10-2005, 09:53 AM #8Originally Posted by cowboy60
08-10-2005, 10:03 AM #9
appreciate the replies...i guess i'm just trying to build up some reassurance that i'm not going to immediately lose all the gains i make on my first cycle
08-10-2005, 10:07 AM #10Originally Posted by cowboy60
08-10-2005, 10:07 AM #11
you should be able to keep a good portion of your gains from your first cycle as long as you eat a lot and train well and do a solid PCT
08-10-2005, 10:11 AM #12
would you guys recommend Test-e only? or stacked with EQ as a first cycle? for the most solid gains
08-10-2005, 10:13 AM #13
how do they say it do what i say not as i do.
for your first cycle best for be test-e only. see what kind of gains nyou get. then for the second decide if you wont deca or eq.
with your test cycle you can jumpstart it with t-bol or d-bol.
08-10-2005, 10:20 AM #14
you saying to jumpstart a first cycle with t-bol or d-bol? or later on in another cycle?
08-10-2005, 10:36 AM #15Junior Member
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He was saying you can jumstart your cycle with on of the two he mentioned. For first cycle I would do 500 a week shooting twice a week for 10 weeks with nolva and then run pct. You will see nice gains and see how your body reacts to aas.
08-10-2005, 10:37 AM #16
you think there would be any significant difference in 10 weeks compared to 12 weeks? of test-e at 500 mg/week
08-10-2005, 10:46 AM #17
yes 2 weeks worth. this is what i would run
1-4 t-bol 50mg day
1-12 test-e or c 500mg week 250mg shoot monday and thursdays
1-12 nolv 10mg day
14 days after last injection start pct clomid and nolv 20mg day
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