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    Is eq a strong enough base??

    I know that you need to throw in some test on a cycle of winni and fina
    and i also know that eq is a mild form of test..even tho its really mild will it be ok to us it as a base rather than any other test?
    i was thinking on talking a very light cycle too so it wont shut me down that hard. ie.

    Winni 50mg EOD
    Tren 30mg EOD
    EQ 400mg a week
    pct clomid/nolva
    you think this will work im not a big fan of test i dont react well to it
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    ok run a form of test at around 300mgs so you don't suffer through your cycle. olso tren at 30mg eod won't do shit, just don't run it. try this:
    test e 300mg's wk 1-13
    eq 400mgs wk 1-12
    winny 50mgs eod wk 10-15
    PCT

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    i hope that winny is oral other wise needs to be inj ed. 50mgs ed for best results

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    ok run a form of test at around 300mgs so you don't suffer through your cycle. olso tren at 30mg eod won't do shit, just don't run it. try this:
    test e 300mg's wk 1-13
    eq 400mgs wk 1-12
    winny 50mgs eod wk 10-15
    PCT
    but i read alot about how winstrol and trenbolone wor in sinergy together

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    You are giving advice to a person who knows nothing about anabolics.Has never ran a cycle.Nor is he willing to research.He wants everyone to do his homework for him.It doesn't work that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    ok run a form of test at around 300mgs so you don't suffer through your cycle. olso tren at 30mg eod won't do shit, just don't run it. try this:
    test e 300mg's wk 1-13
    eq 400mgs wk 1-12
    winny 50mgs eod wk 10-15
    PCT
    I agree with this but why don't you want to run test? 300 mg ew is a very low dose IMO. If this is your first cycle, most ppl do 400-500 mg of test ew for 12 wks.

    Also, to fully benefit from EQ, it has to be run longer than other hormones....I would never think of running it less than 15 wks...it is VERY mild and will not impress you if you are looking for bulk and size. If you are lucky and have a solid diet, you should look to gain anywhere from 5-10 lbs off of EQ...but those are solid keepable pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    You are giving advice to a person who knows nothing about anabolics.Has never ran a cycle.Nor is he willing to research.He wants everyone to do his homework for him.It doesn't work that way.

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    y are you always on my case?
    i have ran a cycle before of prop and eq i dont react well to test.
    i was doing alot of reaserch about this over the net but i couldnt find anything that relates to this topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    You are giving advice to a person who knows nothing about anabolics.Has never ran a cycle.Nor is he willing to research.He wants everyone to do his homework for him.It doesn't work that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky IV
    y are you always on my case?
    i have ran a cycle before of prop and eq i dont react well to test.
    i was doing alot of reaserch about this over the net but i couldnt find anything that relates to this topic
    well pinnicles right, you need to at least come up with a decent cycle and an understanding of what you are doning to yourself. we cant' do it for you. do some reading and don't be lazy buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky IV
    and i also know that eq is a mild form of test..even tho its really mild will it be ok to us it as a base rather than any other test?

    you think this will work im not a big fan of test i dont react well to it
    EQ is not a mild form of test.
    EQ = equipose
    Test = testosterone
    The male endocrine system naturally produces Testosterone not Equipose.

    How exactly do you react to test ?
    Which test esters have you tried ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky IV
    I know that you need to throw in some test on a cycle of winni and fina
    and i also know that eq is a mild form of test..even tho its really mild will it be ok to us it as a base rather than any other test?
    i was thinking on talking a very light cycle too so it wont shut me down that hard. ie.

    Winni 50mg EOD
    Tren 30mg EOD
    EQ 400mg a week
    pct clomid/nolva
    you think this will work im not a big fan of test i dont react well to it
    you don't wanna be shut down hard, yet you include tren in your cycle. the most suppressive steroid there is. keep researchin more bro like the guys have already said. you have a lot to learn. test is best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eGGz
    EQ is not a mild form of test.
    EQ = equipose
    Test = testosterone
    The male endocrine system naturally produces Testosterone not Equipose.

    How exactly do you react to test ?
    Which test esters have you tried ?
    I took prop and eq for my first cycle and i bloated up with water with in the first two weeks and i also felt like shit for some reason..i thought test was suposed to make u feel amazing but i read up some info that some poeple get depressed while actually using test..mabey my estrogen levels we too high because i was not taking nolva with the cycle at that time. i took it afterwards but now im left with a smooth look wich i dont like..and i still dont enderstand y i felt like shit on it and retained water so quickly..also prop left my ass really sore. not when injected but the next day after..i was limping like a goat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky IV
    i was thinking on talking a very light cycle too so it wont shut me down that hard.
    well id hate to bust your bubble but tren shuts you down hard!
    even tho 30mg EOD wont do anything..add SOME test and raise that to at least 50mg ED and work from there..
    if you decide not to listen get yourself some hcg otherwise your gonna have no natural test for awhile after your cycle and loose everything!

    ps pinnacles right

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    I don't use prop because it isn't worth the pain IMO. On the other hand, I feel great on test enanthate . I also run nolva @ 10mg ED and A-Dex @.25mg ED for bloat. Also I feel like crap on winny and it kills my joints, elbows especially. I guess we are opposites in these aspects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    well pinnicles right, you need to at least come up with a decent cycle and an understanding of what you are doning to yourself. we cant' do it for you. do some reading and don't be lazy buddy
    I think he's referring to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eGGz
    I don't use prop because it isn't worth the pain IMO. On the other hand, I feel great on test enanthate. I also run nolva @ 10mg ED and A-Dex @.25mg ED for bloat. Also I feel like crap on winny and it kills my joints, elbows especially. I guess we are opposites in these aspects.
    yea your probly right everyones body reacts diferently to citain drugs
    wheni used to take pro hormones i used to feel great on them m1t was good i felt so confident and i was always pumped everywhere i went. so how soes that make sense that i didnt react well to the prop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
    I think he's referring to you?
    No I'm not..I'm referring to Rambo .....If I piss him off enough,he might,just might actually do some research and spare himself from harm.Because right now,he's an accident waiting to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    No I'm not..I'm referring to Rambo .....If I piss him off enough,he might,just might actually do some research and spare himself from harm.Because right now,he's an accident waiting to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky IV
    yea your probly right everyones body reacts diferently to citain drugs
    wheni used to take pro hormones i used to feel great on them m1t was good i felt so confident and i was always pumped everywhere i went. so how soes that make sense that i didnt react well to the prop?
    Put some test enathate in there and put it together right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
    Put some test enathate in there and put it together right.
    sounds like a plan but im going to start useing letro a week before i even start the cycle just to keep the water down as low as possible.
    do you find letro to be more afective then arimedex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky IV
    sounds like a plan but im going to start useing letro a week before i even start the cycle just to keep the water down as low as possible.
    do you find letro to be more afective then arimedex?
    Personally I would rather go with Arimidex and nolvadex than letro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark956101957
    Personally I would rather go with Arimidex and nolvadex than letro!
    Good advice. Armidex is great for stopping bloat.

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