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Thread: 1st cycle: juice virgin
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10-11-2005, 10:28 AM #1Junior Member
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10-11-2005, 10:30 AM #2
Stack it in your closet for some later cycles and get some test.
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10-11-2005, 10:31 AM #3Originally Posted by Ejuicer
~Pinnacle~
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10-11-2005, 10:35 AM #4Originally Posted by Ejuicer
Brilliant! Actually I think he could stack it in my closet and let me keep it safe for him so he doesn't hurt himself.
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10-11-2005, 10:38 AM #5New Member
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A lot of people say get a test for the first cycle...but isnt sust and test enathate very similar...so why not get sust if its availible...is this an apropriate subsitution or is it no good, and why?
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10-11-2005, 10:46 AM #6Junior Member
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Why does everyone say test for the first cycle. Listen, I'm not one of those guys who fall for the horror stories in the media about juice...I understand things are gray and not black and white. However, aren't things like H20 retention, depression, etc, common? That's scary. Are you saying that what I have (deca , win, and prim) is worthless?
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10-11-2005, 10:47 AM #7Originally Posted by Lifeafterdeath
Life, this is a whole nother thread, but let me have a go anyhow. Sust is not a prefered testosterone because of it's multi ester structure. The micture of long and short esters causes the need for EOD injects to achieve optimum blood serum stability, whereas E or Cyp can both be administered bi-weekly and get good steady blood levels. Sust is very much a drug supplier like to push because it has a good marketing scheme, "Test E only has one ester, this has four it must be better", when in truth in a recent poll most experienced members stated a favor of E or Cyo to Sust.Last edited by shortie; 10-11-2005 at 10:52 AM.
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10-11-2005, 10:48 AM #8
I would stack it like this:
Week 1-11: Deca @400mg EW
Week 1-12: Primobolan @500mg EW
Week 7-12: Winstrol @ 50mg ED
You could jumpstart with some cheap dbols the first 4 weeks @10-40mg ED.
Proper PCT... I'll expect you know your shit, since you don't ask about it.
Anyway you should add some test, to prevent deca dick.
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10-11-2005, 10:50 AM #9Originally Posted by seadam
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10-11-2005, 10:55 AM #10Junior Member
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To Streitingen, what is proper PCT? Also, what the hell is "deca dick"?
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10-11-2005, 10:57 AM #11Junior Member
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Shortie, I hear ya, but what about all of those nasty side effects you hear about? Arent' they for real? Mood swings, acne, water retention, etc. Also, doesn't Deca cause less side effects? Thanks
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10-11-2005, 10:58 AM #12
i would run test just something simple for a first cycle no need to try anything different .. and its not media trash this expeirnced people who expierenced different cycles how many jacked up news reporters do you know
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10-11-2005, 11:00 AM #13
... sorry, but you should read A LOT MORE before asking question...
I prosumed you knew what you where doing, since you already have the juice. Read and learn more before you buy and take the juice!
"Decadick" is a limp dick caused of an deca only cycle... You need to add test to prevent thisLast edited by Streitingen; 10-11-2005 at 11:03 AM.
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10-11-2005, 11:01 AM #14Originally Posted by seadam
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10-11-2005, 11:02 AM #15Junior Member
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You need to do ALOT more research before you even consider juicing. Do a search on PCT and any other topic regarding AAS on this board. Also be patient. If you get too eager to use gear, you can end up hurting yourself, or at the least, wasting your time, money, and effort.
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