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    Got E and Eq but...

    Well, I dropped by original plan of taking Deca /Winny for my 1st cycle and got test E and Eq today. I am taking the E @ 400mg/wk and EQ @ 300mg/wk for 12 weeks. I'll stop the EQ 2 weeks before I stop the test. I'm also taking nolva 20mg ED and I have my pct. However, and I need some advice on this as a first cycler: Since I have extra winny on hand, can I throw that in from week 6-12? I was thinking of 350mg/wk. Is that too much for a first cycle?

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    I would rather see you up your doses than go with an oral first cycle. If I were you I would put it in the closet and save it for next go round, you will have lots of opportunities trust me.

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    350 mg a week is the norm for winny but it needs to shot ed at 50 mgs i would personally up the doses a bit like this

    Test 500 mg wk 1-14
    eq 400 mg wk 1-12
    winny 50 mg ed wk 10-16
    start pct day after last winny jab

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    How do I keep the water retn down?

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    liquidex .25mg ed throughtout cycle

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    Liquidex .25 ED will help with the water? What about Nolva along with that @ 20mg ED?

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    If taking the ldex ed then no need for the nolva unless gyno symptoms occur.

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    Like this:
    Test 500 mg wk 1-14
    EQ 400 mg wk 1-12
    Winny 100mg eod 10-16
    Liquidex .25mg ED
    Nolva 20mg ED

    Starting pct day after last Winny jab

    PCT:
    Day 1: 300mg Clomid/20mg Nolva
    Day 2: 200mg Clomid/20mg Nolva
    Day 3: 100mg Clomid/20mg Nolva
    Day 4-21: 50mg Clomid/20mg Nolva

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    Looks good, I would still chuck the winny for later. AAS is progressive, you will find that you will continually use more and more gear to get good gains, no point in starting any higher than needed IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AIZ
    Like this:
    Test 500 mg wk 1-14
    EQ 400 mg wk 1-12
    Winny 100mg eod 10-16
    Liquidex .25mg ED
    Nolva 20mg ED

    Starting pct day after last Winny jab

    PCT:
    Day 1: 300mg Clomid/20mg Nolva
    Day 2: 200mg Clomid/20mg Nolva
    Day 3: 100mg Clomid/20mg Nolva
    Day 4-21: 50mg Clomid/20mg Nolva
    Jumping from 300mg/wk to 400 on the EQ was a good idea.

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    But does everyone with exp think he needs 3 compounds on his first cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortie
    But does everyone with exp think he needs 3 compounds on his first cycle?
    not to mention a 16 week FIRST cycle

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    I would cut out EQ for first cycle, waste of $$$$ and gear, not high enough dosage and should run for at least 14 weeks to see maxium gains, save it for next time go with just test-e first to see how your body reacts.

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