Comments on this cycle? Deca/Dbol

[Dubsta]

12 weeks.
1-12 Deca - 400mg/week
1-7 Dbol -20mgs/day
Nolva the whole time, clomid and Hcg afterward. Taking the proper ways to come off, as I read on this site.

Would this be ok to do? I mean with only 7 weeks of Dbol? Should I do anything when stopping the Dbol? Or should I run it the full 12 weeks, I don't really want to, as I don't want too much water weight.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

[goose]

forget the Dbol .Run a test for the whole 12 weeks with the deca ,you will get better results plus safer.

goose4....

[Lunacy]

Bad idea. Deca and no test=limp dick. D-bol concentration is too low and for too long. Normally, d-bal is run somewhere around 30-50mgs ed for 4-6 weeks max. You need to run test. What is your cycle experience? I think you should run test alone at 500mgs ew for 12 weeks alone.

[305GUY]

CRAP cycle. Throw 500mg of test, make dbol 1-4 25mg.

[rlslmshdy]

run the dbol for 4wks, dbol is toxic to your liver, run no longer than 4wks, 25-40mgs. plus you need to add some form of test(500mgs) run 1 wk longer than the deca .

[big N]

ya bro no offence but ur cycle sux donkey balls , test is a must , specially if u are to run deca , also if u dont run test theres a vary vary good chance that ur pecker will not work .. and dbol there is no need going to 7 weeks ,
1-12 500 test
1-11 400 deca
1-3 30 mg dbol
and that it , meat and potatoes of cycles .. it does not get any better then a test deca dbol stack ..

also make sure u have ur pct ancilirarys on hand , and ur AI .

[jerseyboy]

ya bro no offence but ur cycle sux donkey balls , test is a must , specially if u are to run deca , also if u dont run test theres a vary vary good chance that ur pecker will not work .. and dbol there is no need going to 7 weeks ,
1-12 500 test
1-11 400 deca
1-3 30 mg dbol
and that it , meat and potatoes of cycles .. it does not get any better then a test deca dbol stack ..

also make sure u have ur pct ancilirarys on hand , and ur AI .

lol, "donkey balls" good one.

[NYC BIG MIKE]

HCG and Clomid are sorta redundant as they both work the same pathways in your body. Nolvadex and HCG pct are fine.

[punchrf]

12 weeks.
1-12 Deca - 400mg/week
1-7 Dbol -20mgs/day
Nolva the whole time, clomid and Hcg afterward. Taking the proper ways to come off, as I read on this site.

Would this be ok to do? I mean with only 7 weeks of Dbol? Should I do anything when stopping the Dbol? Or should I run it the full 12 weeks, I don't really want to, as I don't want too much water weight.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

tried this once. never so shut down in my life. took several months to recover and lost a good portion of my gains. if you are set on those 2 compounds then i would also throw test in the mix and drop dbol to 4 weeks at 30mg ed.

[Tattoo70]

Trade d-bol for test....You won't regret it!

[big N]

lol, "donkey balls" good one.

u like that

[powerliftmike]

HCG and Clomid are sorta redundant as they both work the same pathways in your body. Nolvadex and HCG pct are fine.

This is false.

[powerliftmike]

12 weeks.
1-12 Deca - 400mg/week
1-7 Dbol -20mgs/day
Nolva the whole time, clomid and Hcg afterward. Taking the proper ways to come off, as I read on this site.

Would this be ok to do? I mean with only 7 weeks of Dbol? Should I do anything when stopping the Dbol? Or should I run it the full 12 weeks, I don't really want to, as I don't want too much water weight.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

Terrible cycle. You need test in there, you are running dbol way too long, and you should not be using HCG for PCT.

[big N]

PM is right they are not the same clomid is far better for pct .i always run nolva and clomid 2 gether for pct works great.

and Mike its ok if he runs hcg for pct aslong as he runs it the last 2 weeks DURING the cycle .not during the actual pct as it supressive

[powerliftmike]

PM is right they are not the same clomid is far better for pct .i always run nolva and clomid 2 gether for pct works great.

and Mike its ok if he runs hcg for pct aslong as he runs it the last 2 weeks DURING the cycle .not during the actual pct as it supressive

HCG during cycle is fine.

[superfat73]

listen to lunacy

[Dubsta]

Test it is then...I want to take the minimal amount...how much of each? 400mgs be enough of test?

[big N]

run the test abot higher then deca , so 300 deca and 400 testif u wan to run teh minimal amount

[superfat73]

is this is ur first cycle, if so just test unless your stubborn...then run test 2 weeks longer than decca

[Dubsta]

Ok, so lets say I run 300mgs of Deca , and 400mgs of Test a week. I stop the the Deca at week 10, and keep going with the test until week 12. Do I ease of each drug like they say on this site? When do I start clomid?

I will be taking Nolva the enitre time also. Is there any point in keeping HCG on hand?

[jerseyboy]

Ease off you mean like tapering? No, that's old school thinking.

[Dubsta]

Why does this site recommend it then?

I want to take the Deca , cause I have a really bad shoulder problem, already have had corizone shots, don't want anymore or surgery...I woulld like to see how much the deca will help...

[jerseyboy]

Why does this site recommend it then?

I want to take the Deca, cause I have a really bad shoulder problem, already have had corizone shots, don't want anymore or surgery...I woulld like to see how much the deca will help...

There is alot of outdated info. on the internet.

[testosterona]

deca wk 1-11 400mgs
test e wk 1-12 400mgs
PCT:
no hcg needed for a cycle that short. this is a great cycle for bulking. you can add some dbol if you want the first four wks at 30mgs ed.

[Gra]

Ok, so lets say I run 300mgs of Deca , and 400mgs of Test a week. I stop the the Deca at week 10, and keep going with the test until week 12. Do I ease of each drug like they say on this site? When do I start clomid?

I will be taking Nolva the enitre time also. Is there any point in keeping HCG on hand?

If you use Test E or C you should start clomid 2 weeks after your last shot.

[Dubsta]

Thanks everyone! I was told to pyramid up....should I do that, or just start out at the doses that are recommened?

[longhorn814]

Thanks everyone! I was told to pyramid up....should I do that, or just start out at the doses that are recommened?

NO!! Constant dose all the way through. Tapering up and/or down causes fluctuations in hormone blood levels, which in turn leads to more sides. Keeping blood levels constants = less sides

[Dubsta]

Perfect, constant does the whole time.

I was told it is good to take a few shots of hcg during the cycle, should I do this?

Also, since I am hitting Test E and Deca , how many shots should I do a week, I can hit 400mgs Test on say...Sunday, then do the Deca on Wednesday? Or should I break it up into 4 shots?

Thanks in advance!

[jerseyboy]

Long ester tests like enth. and cyp. need to be shot twice a week like monday morning and thursday night. Test prop. needs to be shot at least every other day if not ED. Split the deca up also.

[Dubsta]

So do I shoot both on the same day then...2 shots Monday AM and two more Thursday PM?

[Dubsta]

Also, what about pins...is 1" long enough for the glute and quad? Or should I go 1.5"?

And what about these two being shot in the shoulder? Possible?

[big N]

1 inch in fine , if ur not not like 20% bf.

[Dubsta]

Nah, I'm fairly lean...

[brandonstanks]

Terrible cycle. You need test in there, you are running dbol way too long, and you should not be using HCG for PCT.

Okay, now I'm a lil confused. On the profile of HCG it says something like,

"HCG...250-500IU/day, 2-3weeks, starting on last week of cycle, after HCG cycle, continue Nolvadex or Clomid."

Is this out-dated info? Because this implies that one would need to BEGIN hcg while on your cycle(the last week) and CONTINUE hcg 2 weeks into one's PCT.
???

[big N]

outdated info bro. hcg while on pct is supressive ,

[eGGz]

ya bro no offence but ur cycle sux donkey balls.

What's offensive about that?

[eGGz]

Okay, now I'm a lil confused. On the profile of HCG it says something like,

"HCG...250-500IU/day, 2-3weeks, starting on last week of cycle, after HCG cycle, continue Nolvadex or Clomid."

Is this out-dated info? Because this implies that one would need to BEGIN hcg while on your cycle(the last week) and CONTINUE hcg 2 weeks into one's PCT.
???

If running a long ester such as enanthate , it is acceptable to run HCG during the period between your last injection and the start of PCT but not during PCT.

Be careful not to mix HCG and clomid.

[longhorn814]

So do I shoot both on the same day then...2 shots Monday AM and two more Thursday PM?

you can put test and deca in the same syringe so you only have to do one shot on monday and one shot on thursday

[Dubsta]

So that would be a shot of 2cc's, is that alot?

[longhorn814]

2ccs is fine in the glute or quad