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    First Cycle....

    Hey guys I am starting my first Cycle today. Here is the plan. Let me know if this is good or needs adjusting.

    thanks in advance .

    Test - Prop 1cc EOD
    Test - Cyp 1cc - 200mg week
    Deca - 200mg 1cc - week
    anastrozal 1 weekly

    also i have 60 2.5 mg oxanadrin pills, should i split them up and take them all within the first week?

    I have 22g. 1.5 pins is the butt the best place for this? where else can i inject? do i need different pins for different places?
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    oooo man, i would suggest reading up a little more. i would go with something like this for a first cycle:
    weeks 1-12 test enth @ 500mg EW (250mg 2x a week)
    weeks 1-4 dbol @ 25-35mg ED <--(or you could jumpstart it with the prop here)
    weeks 1-18 nolva @10mg ED Bumped to 20-40mg during pct(15-18)
    weeks 15-18 clomid @ 50-100mg ED

    i use 23g 1.5" for glutes (butt) and 25g 1" for delts and quads and 25g 5/8" for bis and tris, but glutes, delts, and quads should be enough for you.

    also no, i would not waste my var for just one week of it. save it for next cycle and run it for 6 weeks.

    Just My Opinion

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    Can You Explain The Ooooo Man Part... And Why And Why Not?

    Quote Originally Posted by fitnessguy
    oooo man, i would suggest reading up a little more. i would go with something like this for a first cycle:
    weeks 1-12 test enth @ 500mg EW (250mg 2x a week)
    weeks 1-4 dbol @ 25-35mg ED <--(or you could jumpstart it with the prop here)
    weeks 1-18 nolva @10mg ED Bumped to 20-40mg during pct(15-18)
    weeks 15-18 clomid @ 50-100mg ED

    i use 23g 1.5" for glutes (butt) and 25g 1" for delts and quads and 25g 5/8" for bis and tris, but glutes, delts, and quads should be enough for you.

    also no, i would not waste my var for just one week of it. save it for next cycle and run it for 6 weeks.

    Just My Opinion
    Can You Explain The Ooooo Man Part... And Why And Why Not?

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    ooooo man =
    1) youhave listed no legths of cycle/ when your taking what
    2) you are running deca in your first cycle
    3) you have listed no AI's SERM's or b-6
    4) you have listed no PCT (post cycle therapy )
    5) how much is 1cc of prop? 50mg? 75mg? 100mg?
    6) you are asking if you should should take ~22mg of var for 1 week
    7) re-read your last 3 questions of your original post and think about if you're ready to be injecting yourself

    this is by no means a flame. just trying to help you out dude. best of luck.

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    ^^^ that's just what was going through my head when i said ooooo man^^^

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    why do you not recommend DECA in the first cycle. also i listed anastrozal which is an AI,

    MY cycle length is 10 weeks.


    also my oxandralone is only 2.5 mgs a tab. its not worth saving i was asking if this would help with the front loading.

    test prop- 1 cc 100mg\ML. EOD 9 WEEKS
    TEST CYP- 1CC 200MG\ML 1x WEEK 10 WEEKS
    Deca - 1 cc 200mg\ml 1x week x 10 weeks
    Anastrozal 10mg 1x a week 10 weeks.
    PCT- Nolvadex 20mg a day 6 weeks.

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    try this:

    1-4 50mg prop ed
    1-12 500mg/wk test e
    1-11 400mg/wk deca
    13-14 50mg prop ed
    15-19 PCT nolva & clomid

    Dont use the var as you dont have nearly enough

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    try reading up a bit before you take the dive...why would you run the propo to week 9 and the cyp to week 10?!?!?!?!?!??!if anything you should be running the prop last,so you can starty pct 3 days after last shot and not 18 days as you do with the cyp.read and you will be a happy person

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    why is everyone leaning towards test E over test C ?

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    the gear is not going to make a difference if you are not going to use it the right way. actually it will make a diff but, why not know all you can so you can max your results??? gonna spend money know what your doing.

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    and oh yeah 200mgs of deca is not going to do nothing.

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    NJ3 you have no idea what you are doing. this is serious business and should be given as much attention as at-home brain surgery, IMO.

    10mg anastrozole once a week??? that's just the tip of the iceberg on this one. RRRRREEEEEAAAADDDDD for heaven's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nj3fiddyz
    why is everyone leaning towards test E over test C ?
    i wouldnt say anbody is leaning one way or the other. Enanathat and Cyp are essentially the same ester with one extra molecule attached to cyp to make it a little heavier

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    sorry 1 mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiley619
    the gear is not going to make a difference if you are not going to use it the right way. actually it will make a diff but, why not know all you can so you can max your results??? gonna spend money know what your doing.
    The reason for my post was to get answeres to proper dosages. Can you tell me what you would do with 10 ml of prop. 10ml of cyp and 10ml of Deca ? If you think i need more or less thats not a problem i have a steady rescource for gear. i trained hard for the last 5 yrs. hurt myself last year and lost a ton of muscle, i have never juiced b4 but under the circumstances i want to put the weight back on and get back to size. since i have the gear you know im going to take it just asking for some help.

    thnks.

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