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11-27-2005, 11:18 PM #1New Member
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Tren/VAR/Clen/winstrol cutting cycle
OK here are my stats. 24 male, 5'9 206lbs appx 19%bf been lifting for appx 7 years. Easy gainer hard to loose fat.
Ok i have done 2 cycles my first was a winstol only cycle 50mg eod for 8 weeks and i went from 215 @22%bf to 189 @12%bf. My 2nd cycle i had to stop i was taking tren and wonstrol and kept repeatidly getting sick had to stop. If anyone has anything critiquing let me know i am open to constructive criticism.
week 1-10 300mg tren enthenate shot 1 per week
week 5-12 anavar between 30-50mg ED
week 5-8 winstrol 50mg eod (100mg eod weeks 8-12)
weeks 1-12 will be cycling between ECA and clen (50mcg) 2 wks on/off.
then PCT
I am trying to preserve lean body mass while cutting fat and getting a more ripped/hard physique. I will be eating between 2100-2700 cals daily
45% protein, 25% carbs, 30% fats. All from healthy sources of coarse:
example day:
SUPPLEMENT: AMINO ACID 2 GEL CAPS 3X DAILY
MILK THISTLE ED
L CARNTINE IN THE MORNING
MULTI VITAMIN
VITAMIN B5
meal#1 6 eggwhites/1 yolk with ham
LOW CAL/SUGAR OATMEAL
CUP OF NATURAL OJ W/LOT OF PULP
1 MULTI VIT/ L CARNATINE
MEAL#2 ONE 8 OZ CHICKEN BREAST
W/SMALL SRVNG OF BROWN RICE
MEAL#3 MUSCLE MILE SHAKE
MEAL#4 CHICKEN BREAST WITH ZUCCINI/SQUASH
MEAL#5 LOW CARB PROTEIN SHAKE
WORKOUT AT 7-9PM
MEAL#6 8OZ CHICKEN BREAST WITH BROWN RICE/STEAMED VEGGIES
10GRAMS OF GLUTAMINE
MEAL#7 ONE NO CARB PROTEIN SCOOP IN WATER BEFORE BED.
cardio 5x week 45-60 minutes elyptical machine.
Again i am trying to lean down as much as possible while defining/hardening the muscle i currently have. my goal is to be between 9-12% bf after the 12 weeks. I believe this to be obtainable if i stick to my diet and the cardio to a T. what do you gusy think any critiques are welcome
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11-27-2005, 11:25 PM #2Member
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you need test in there...use test prop
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11-28-2005, 12:10 AM #3New Member
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my bud told me that too....why is that so important? And so should i just use it to frontload?
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11-28-2005, 01:22 AM #4Member
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your gonna shut down hard with the tren ..test is a staple in all my cycles...you NEED it for this cycle....i mean you can use prop. test E..whatever...i use prop when im useing Tren A...im not sure of the frequency of shots with the longer tren E..but you need test man...good luck
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11-28-2005, 01:32 AM #5New Member
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11-28-2005, 02:27 AM #6
def throw some prop in there
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11-28-2005, 12:53 PM #7Member
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test e..test c...prop...anything u need test
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11-29-2005, 06:00 PM #8New Member
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bump anyone else?
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11-29-2005, 06:08 PM #9Originally Posted by assiason
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11-29-2005, 06:16 PM #10Originally Posted by wolfyEVH
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11-29-2005, 06:51 PM #11New Member
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Originally Posted by wolfyEVH
so your saying the tren will completely supress my natural test? I just started tren last friday how long until i start to shut down? I am waiting fo my test prop which should be here in the next few days will i be ok or are my testes going to hate me?
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11-29-2005, 06:52 PM #12New Member
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Originally Posted by assiason
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11-29-2005, 07:02 PM #13Originally Posted by assiason
I would also highly recommend that you run the Prop at a slightly higher dosage than you are running the Tren at. This will ensure you can get it up through the cycle.
My friend, you are experiencing some major swings in bodyfat, that is not ideal. Sounds to me like you need to committ to a diet while on cycle and when off cycle.
You also might want to add some T3 to the mix as well. The Tren downgrades the Thyroid and the T3 will compensate for this downgrade. It also won't hurt to cut the fat.
Most importantly, get your diet in check and get on the Treadmill.
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12-02-2005, 01:20 AM #14New Member
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Originally Posted by tempbrit
couldnt agree with you more. my diet has been S$$t for the past 8 months.
got into a car acident herniated 3 disks and couldnt life fr 6 months, needless to say i slacked.But I am committing to this diet now 110% my only other question is weather low intensity or high intensity cardio is better?
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