Thread: question about Clomid and HCG
05-14-2002, 08:05 PM #1
question about Clomid and HCG
Last edited by OT8268; 05-14-2002 at 08:09 PM.
05-14-2002, 08:49 PM #2
maybe this might help, 2 to 3 weeks after last shot of enathate
When administered, HGC raises serum testosterone very quickly. A rise in testosterone firs appears in about two hours after injecting HCG . The second peak occurs about two to four days later. HCG therapy has been found to be very effective in the prevention of testicular atrophy and to use the body’s own biochemical stimulating mechanisms to increase plasma testosterone level during training. Some steroid users find that they have some of their best strength and size gains while using HCG in conjunction with the steroids . This may wee be due to the facts that the body has high level of natural androgens as well as the artificial steroid hormones at that time. The optimal dosage for an athlete using HCG has never been established, but it is thought hat a single shot of 1000 to 2000 IU per week will get the desired results. Cycles on the HCG should be kept down to three weeks at a time with an off cycle of at least a month in between.
For example, one might use the HCG for two to three weeks in the middle of a cycle, and for two or three weeks at the end of a cycle. It has been speculated that the prolonged use of HCG could repress the body’s own production of gonadotropins permanently. This is why the short cycles are the best way to go. The side effects from HCG use include gynecomastia , water retention, and an increase in sex drive, mood alterations, headaches, and high blood pressure. HCG raises androgen levels in males by up to 400% but it also raises estrogen levels dramatically as well. This is why it can cause a real case of gynecomastia if dosages get too elevated for that person. Another side effect seen from HCG use is morning sickness (nausea and vomiting).
05-14-2002, 11:01 PM #3New Member
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that doesnt answer if it is an adequate replacement for clomid....is it?
05-15-2002, 08:58 PM #4Junior Member
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well if you dont't have clomid hcg will help you ,but it's not substitute for clomid.hcg mimics LH wich signals testicals to produce test,it does not restore hpta.clomid will bring yourhpta on the right track
clomid is not so hard to get
05-15-2002, 11:39 PM #5
HCG is not a replacement for Clomid, in fact, since it supresses the Leutenizing Hormone (LH) which signals the body to producce it's own natrual testosterone production, it can actually do more harm than good.
Q: What is Clomid? How do I take Clomid?
A: Clomid (clomiphene citrate) helps the male testes to restore natural testosterone production. Clomid is taken on the following schedule: 300mg the first day, 100mg a day for the next ten days and 50mg a day for another 10 days.
Click here for an excellent FAQ on Clomid.
Q: When should I start Clomid after my cycle?
A: When the LAST of the steroids are out of your system. Here is a chart that illustrates how long it takes specific steroids to get out of your system:
Anadrol : 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca : 3 weeks after last injection and Clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol : 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise : 17 – 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon : 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate : 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enathate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension : 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol : 8 – 12 hours after last administration
Wait until ALL the steroids you have taken have been metabolized! For example, if you stop taking testosterone enathate (2 weeks) and Winstrol (12 hours) at the same time, wait 2 weeks!
Q: Should I use HCG post-cycle?
A: No, it can interfere with the Clomid therapy and prevent your natural testosterone production form returning to normal levels.
Q: What is HCG used for?
A: HCG is used to increase the testicle size and volume of ejaculatory discharge. Typically, it is used mid-cycle on a long cycle. Beginners generally needn’t trouble with HCG.
For a debate on how to use HCG & dosages, click here and here
Last edited by Ajax; 05-15-2002 at 11:41 PM.
05-17-2002, 10:35 PM #6New Member
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Thanks that answers it
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