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02-14-2006, 09:41 AM #41
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02-14-2006, 10:23 AM #42Anabolic Member
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Ok... we know for sure that Test E starts "working" the frst day you inject it. But why the delay of the major effect? It cannot beonly about reaching the right concentrations since if u frontload heavily u still wont see any real gains very early. Am I right? Even test prop takes about 3 weeks or sumin to really "hit". Now the effects of a steroid hormone take some time to manifest for sure.. Not like they bind to the receptor and immediatly alter enzyme functions, they control protein synthesis which is a slower process. But what explains still the so called "kicking in"?
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02-14-2006, 10:51 AM #43Originally Posted by stupidhippo
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02-14-2006, 10:59 AM #44Anabolic Member
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Strenght gains with prop will come with-in a week!!
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02-14-2006, 11:58 AM #45
Is it safe to front load and go 14 or 16 weeks ??? And if im doing 400 mg test cyp twice a week, how much should i front load ( my first cycle ) And how many times before i start my regular shots of 200 twice a week ??? Thanks
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02-14-2006, 12:25 PM #46
I don't think frontloading is effective nor is it necessary after reading many Vets post about their results pertaining to this. Keep it at 400mg/wk all the way through to keep bloodlevels more stable and reduce sides.
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02-14-2006, 12:30 PM #47
There is a great article in MD about the signs for newbies that test is kicking in, maybe I will scan it in and attach if possible (file size might be too big).
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02-14-2006, 12:37 PM #48Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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02-14-2006, 12:41 PM #49Anabolic Member
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hmm well I feel prop even earlier but I get the so called kicking in effect (whatever that is) at the 3 week mark about.. Then I start to really get stronger than b4 in the gym etc (though given that the effect on libido etc is felt alot earlier).. I do feel it earlier though but the major boost comes later. The whole concept of kicking in is weird and ppl mean diffrent things by it. I have to say though that I have never used prop alone with high/moderate doses so that might also play a part in it.. dunno..
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02-14-2006, 12:44 PM #50
sex drive is actually the first sign before strength gain. week 2-3 of a test-e cycle, you should notice that you are getting hornier more often. guys are pretty regular when it comes to sex drive. some guys have to drop a load 3 times a day where others are closer to once every 3 days. i would say once a day is about average. once you notice an obvious increase it usually means the juice is kicking in. you get turned on a lot easier and all the time. you might see some ugly chick and get all fired up for some reason.
or if u want to know for sure, go to the doc, and have blood work done.
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02-14-2006, 12:47 PM #51Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by Juicy Sauce
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02-14-2006, 12:58 PM #52
Iv allways wondered...If ur using a long acting ester like test E...If you stop at week 10...can you still see weight and strength gains up untill week 12 untill its out of your system, even thought you stoped shooting 7-14 days ago ?
If this is right...every time you do a 10 weeker your really doing 12?
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02-14-2006, 01:10 PM #53Originally Posted by sp9
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02-14-2006, 01:11 PM #54Originally Posted by needbigguns
No, this is not right. If you wanted a true 12 weeker, you would run prop from the day after your last test e shot all the way to 1 day b4 PCT.
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02-14-2006, 01:44 PM #55Banned
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no then 12 would be 14 and 14 would be 16 and so on and so on
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02-14-2006, 01:49 PM #56Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by CHARGER
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02-14-2006, 01:55 PM #57
i dont know what all the confusion is about here. you dont add or subtract weeks because it does or doesnt kick in on time. for example 10 week cycle. takes 2 weeks to kick in. stays in your system 2 weeks after last injection. that means you injected for 10 weeks and it was kicked in for 10 weeks as well. not 12 weeks.
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02-14-2006, 01:57 PM #58Originally Posted by Juicy Sauce
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02-14-2006, 01:59 PM #59Originally Posted by Juicy Sauce
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02-14-2006, 02:42 PM #60Anabolic Member
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it does have that point though that the last 2 weeks then when u dont inject ur bloodlevels are dropping all the time..
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02-14-2006, 06:13 PM #61
Take a look at this thread for hints on when it has kicked in:
http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=224079
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02-16-2006, 11:07 AM #62Originally Posted by vitor
not libido,not strenght.............................
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Minimum 12 weeks for Test Enan, as you stated. I'm a late starter. It doesnt kick in fully till about 8-9 for me. Thats why I wont be running cycles under 12 weeks. 14 preferably.Last edited by oswaldosalcedo; 02-16-2006 at 11:14 AM.
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02-16-2006, 11:33 AM #63
8-9 weeks to kick in? holy poop....
And I thought I was a late bloomer when sust took 7 weeks for me.. Im currently on week 5 of cyp, and still waiting patiently....
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03-09-2006, 05:33 PM #64Member
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so 16 weeks of test e is dangerous???????? beacuse if you do 12 weeks for me test e kicks in after 8 weeks so all i get good result are week 8.9.10.11.12 only 5 weeks so i was thinking of doing 16 weeks so i would gain more and keep more! but the side effects are worst at 16 weeks????
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03-09-2006, 06:12 PM #65Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta
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03-09-2006, 06:33 PM #66Member
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i have been cycling for like almost 2 yrs know! so i should keep with 12 weeks cycles like usuall
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03-09-2006, 06:42 PM #67Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta
Good luck, someone else will help you.
All the people in high school that I know started around 16 or 17 looked like lumps of crap by their late 20's. I hope you do better.
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03-09-2006, 07:40 PM #68Member
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Originally Posted by sp9
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03-09-2006, 08:50 PM #69
Like he said, lumps of crap. Maybe your the exception.
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03-09-2006, 09:09 PM #70Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta
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03-09-2006, 10:10 PM #71
Im ending week 9 of test c, which is almost identical to test e, and just felt it for the first time tonight...9 weeks...longest it has ever taken me...
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03-10-2006, 06:19 PM #72
Hmm test c took 9 weeks to kick in for you? That seems like a long ass time for cyp. Like they say everyone is different.
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