01-30-2006, 10:51 AM #1
01-30-2006, 10:54 AM #2
01-30-2006, 10:55 AM #3
01-30-2006, 10:56 AM #4
01-30-2006, 10:58 AM #5
I live for prop/tren /d-bol that's a great size and strength builder, forget the winny IMO...I mdon't feel i lose any more LBM coming off d-bol vs winny other than a little water...if your taking letro or nolva the water won't be an issue anyways.
01-30-2006, 11:03 AM #6
Well here's my input on this one.................
As most know I'm the biggest fan of winny but think that it will benefit you way more with the Test and tren then the D-bol will. Reason being Winstrol has a low binding affinity to the AR so it will react differently in your body then the D-bol will. Also Winny is a DHT-deriv. Combine that with Tren (19-nor) and Prop (Test) you’ll have a cycle which combines all 3 major families of Anabolic Steroids .
01-30-2006, 12:40 PM #7
01-30-2006, 12:47 PM #8Originally Posted by lifthard2005
Someone post a study if you know of one...
01-30-2006, 01:04 PM #9
01-30-2006, 02:18 PM #10Originally Posted by needbigguns
I always try to give advice to suit the question(s) listed. At the same time I throw my 2 cents in on what I think would be benficial. Goals should be practical and attainable. Certain compounds (D-bol, Drol) will produce gains but how much can you really say are retainable???????
Originally Posted by needbigguns
Last edited by SPIKE; 01-30-2006 at 02:21 PM.
01-30-2006, 02:25 PM #11
Yes alot of it comes down to proper pct's for sure, and like Jayhova some people fair very well with Winny, whereas it doesn't do much for me at all even with doses of 100mgs/day compared to even 30mgs/day of d-bol. And earlier Jayhova mentioned about having the "big three" which is a good plan for any stack, i would of opted for materon over winny but winny is what we have to play with on this thread I also believe with the addition of 10-20mgs/day of nolva or .25mgs/day of letro you will take care of the water weight in the beginning and not have to include the loss during pct's.
Originally Posted by Jayhova16
01-30-2006, 02:26 PM #12
One more thing to consider? It depends on how much cardio your going to be doing, alot of guys (i'm one of them) get shin splints when running or jogging on a treadmill...as well d-bol gives alot of guys (i'm one of them) lower back pumps that are painful at times, so consider your options.
01-30-2006, 02:31 PM #13Originally Posted by Mallet
It's just with the proposed compounds I thought Winny fit in better. Oh and for the record I dont winny at all, not even a little. We got into a beef a long time ago and things have never been the same ever since. Whore...........
01-30-2006, 03:17 PM #14Originally Posted by Jayhova16
Ya, no winny for me either!
01-30-2006, 03:18 PM #15Originally Posted by lifthard2005
01-30-2006, 03:25 PM #16Originally Posted by Mallet
I was actually calling Winny the whore.
01-30-2006, 03:29 PM #17
winnyOriginally Posted by needbigguns
01-30-2006, 03:36 PM #18Originally Posted by Logan13
01-30-2006, 04:01 PM #19
As iv allready said im 9.5/10% BF, so would Masteron be good to add to this cycle...Bear in mind my only problem is i use 2ml syringes...I can get around 3ml in the syringe as it had about 1ml extra which is not marked out...So i would be able to run around 60/70 MG's EOD of prop with the tren ...would it be worth adding ?
02-01-2006, 11:22 AM #20
right can anyone help me out now, iv nearly got it susted...Remember im shooting EOD with a 3 ml Syringe (Well its a TERUMO syringe with upto 2ml markings on it - but looks to me like theres an extra 1ml - i allways fill it past the 2ml anyway)
I want my Test to add up to 500mg/Week - Which is 125mg/ML
My Tren is dosed @ 75mg/ML
And Masteron @ 100mg/ML
Will 125mg EOD add upto 500mg/Week ? Im thinking i may need to do 1.3ml of test EOD to make 500mg/week - but im no good at maths thats why im asking - Which would mean Masteron would have to be run @ 0.7mg (70mg) EOD - Is this sufficient ?
I would like to incorporate all 3 steroid familys... - is 4 compunds OK if i only run it for 6 weeks ? Or 6 weeks with 4 compounds then drop the Dbol for the other 2...
14-16 Lbs after PCT is all i want
02-03-2006, 12:35 PM #21
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03-01-2006, 11:06 AM #23
Why dont you start with dbol for the first 4 weeks then swap it for winny for the remaining weeks, ive experienced great gains doing this in the past and i like how the winny hardens my muscle up towards the end of the cycle.
Thats the way id go.
03-01-2006, 11:18 AM #24Anabolic Member
Originally Posted by Jayhova
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There where posted a case study here with Bill Roberts on a 2on 4off, cycle with tren /d-bol. Hes client made big gains.
Someone would put on more mass with prop/tren/d-bol than with prop/tren/winstrol.
But I would still pick the winstrol over d-bol, without a doubt.....
03-01-2006, 11:27 AM #25
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