11-04-2002, 05:50 PM #1Associate Member
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need help with shopping list for 2nd cycle
I am about to purchase my second cycle for sometime early spring. I am currently in my 6th week of an 11 week deca (300), test (t-400 denkall) cycle. This is my first cycle. I have seen awesome gains in strength such as behind the neck press from 115 for 8-10 to 155 for 10 and can usually push 4 at 175. I am 6'2, and have went from 212 to 226 ( eating like a horse ). I would assume by x-mas I will be about 235... rough guess. That is about where I wanted to be... 20-22lb gain. Now 1st question before we make a shopping list. Is there anything I need to take after this cycle. Such as clomid or anything like that. I don't really understand the clomid or what it is for, why you take it stuff... could someone maybe post a link to a past posting so I can read up.
Spring cycle,... Now. What should I take. I want to get a little bigger then the 235, muscle mass wise, but cut alot of weight. Basically I want to get ripped, look cut and vascular. Winny, eq, just not sure. I have access to just about everything. I would prefer injectables, but honestly I am open to all suggestions. Anyone have an Idea what i can cut down to, and still build some more strength mass? Will that make me look huge, being cut? Thanks bros, u guys are the best help!!!
11-04-2002, 05:58 PM #2VET
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Of course you'll need your clomid for post-cycle.
This is from the drug profiles found on the main page :
Clomid is not an anabolic /androgenic steroid . Since it is a synthetic estrogen it belongs, however, to the group of sex hormones. In school medicine Clomid is normally used to trigger ovulation. Clomid also has a strong influence on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis. It stimulates the hypo-physis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher re-lease of FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hor-mone) occurs. This results in an elevated endogenous (body's own) testosterone level. Clomid is especially effective when the body's own testosterone production, due to the intake of anabolic/androgenic steroids , is suppressed. In most cases Clomid can normalize the tes-tosterone level and the spermatogenesis (sperm development) within 10- 14 days. For this reason Clomid is primarily taken after steroids are discontinued. At this time it is extremely important to bring the testosterone production to a normal level as quickly as possible so that the loss of strength and muscle mass is minimized. Even better results can be achieved if Clomid is combined with HCG or when Clomid is used after the intake of HCG.
Paradoxically, although Clomid is a synthetic estrogen it also works as an antiestrogen. The reason is that Clomid has only a very low estrogenic effect and thus the stronger estrogens which, for example, form during the aromatization of steroids, are blocked at the recep-tors. These would include those that develop during the aromatiz-ing of steroids. This does not prevent the steroids from aromatizing but the increased estrogen is mostly deactivated since it cannot at-tach to the receptors. The increased water retention and the possible signs of feminization can thus be reduced or even completely avoided. Since the antiestrogenic effect of Clomid is lower than those found in Proviron , Nolvadex , and Teslac it is mainly taken as a testosterone stimulant. Clomid is a medica-tion that promotes the production of the body's own stimulating hormone, gonadotropin, which in turn increases the testosterone level. It is, for example, administered to women as a so-called antiestrogen to trigger ovulation ("ovulation stimulator").
Side effects of Clomid are very rare if reasonable dosages are taken. Possible side effects are climacteric hot flashes and occasional visual disturbances which can manifest themselves in blurred vision, giv-ing flickering or flashing. Should visual disturbances occur, the manufacturer recommends discontinuing Clomid treatment. Inad-equate liver functions cannot be excluded; however, they are very unlikely. In women enlargement of the ovaries and abdominal pain can occur since Clomid stimulates the ovaries. When taking Clomid multiple pregnancies are possible as well. As for the dosage, 50-100 mg/day (1 -2 tablets) seems to be sufficient. The tablets are usually taken with fluids after meals. If several tablets are taken it is recom-mended that they be administered in equal doses distributed through-out the day. The duration of intake has been rummored to not be taken for longer thatn 10-14 days. This is incorrect. Clinical studies with male patients have shown clomid to be used for up to a year or longer. Most athletes begin with 100 mg/day, taking one 5 0 mg tablet ev-ery morning and evening after meals. After the fifth day the dosage is often reduced to only one 50 mg tablet per day It is normally not necessary to take the compound for more than ten days in order to increase the endogenous testosterone production. Clomid is relatively expensive. A package with 10 tablets costs approx. $35 - 45 on the black market.
11-04-2002, 05:59 PM #3VET
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As for your next cycle, what do you think about Fina ??
11-04-2002, 06:19 PM #4
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