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    Kill Estrogen for a Cut?

    Ok guys Im new but I was looking for some help,
    I have read the "fat loving" characteristics about estrogen, an have heard that guys on a cutting cycle, even without juice, take Nolv to help rid of fat. I am very gyno prone, I think, cause I have had the fat under the chest with puffy nipps since I was 13. I am going to cut with a sound diet, cardio, intervals of clen and ECA, CLA, and Yohimburn. I am too young for AS, (Trust me Im new to post, but ive been reading the board for a while, and have learned my lesson!)
    So, should the Nolv be used?
    Any other comments would help me out!
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    I don't think you really need novl. All the other stuff you are taking should be good to help cut you up.

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    consult your doctor.

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    Not to sound like an ignorant asshole, but the last time I asked a doctor about the puffy nips, fat deposit, and (possible) lump, she said it runs in the family, which is bullshit. I told her that i get itchy and a bit of pain once in a while she told me to take advil.
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    Any info would be great!
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    I think i would go with 10mg nolva and .25mg of arimidex a day, that should give you a little boost in the fat lose department...XXL
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    Its does not run in the family my doctor told me. Alot of obese children tend to get it during puberty because your hormones are out of whack.

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    Bro I tried Nolv @10mgs per day for 2 weeks and saw no change in my "fat nips" the only thing I thought Nolv did was boost my sex drive and maybe make my facial hair grow a bit faster. Now maybe I didn't give it enough time to do it's thing, but really I saw no change in bf%. BTW I was 11% bf before I started the Nolv, but while I was using the Nolv I had weight gain of about 3lbs. I am not sure what caused the weight gain, but I tend to think it was water weight (strange I know). Arimidex might work better for me, but I think you have to be careful when using arimidex because you don't want your estro levels to get too low. Anyone care to add their thoughts?

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    dex or femara

    NO NOLVA

    yohimburn is good if the problem is A2 related (which most puffies are.. at least 60% with the 60-80 being partially a2).. for puffies the DF is probably a better choice as nipples tend to retain water.

    Bromocriptine is a good option for prolactin induced.. about 10-20% with the 20-40% being at least partial prolactin induced.


    these therapies tend to work best when dieting.. why this is the case with the prolactin induced?? but it seem to be.

    for fat loss the addition of EC or NYC (even clen ) is often used.

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    Thanks guys

    Macro - how am i supposed to know if i should use bromo or dex?
    Why not nolva?

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    P.S. - Got Yohimburn

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    Originally posted by FmRommel
    Thanks guys

    Macro - how am i supposed to know if i should use bromo or dex?
    Why not nolva?
    you can use both..
    there is really no exact way to know which is more effective..(ie is it estro or prolactin puffyness) most people just figure. (at least lately) use both.. plus both can improve fat loss(through different mechanisms)..

    nolva is a serm.. it is both anti-estrogen and estrogenic.. studies indicate that nolva has negative impact fat loss (showing fat gain actually)

    main reason few people see reduction of puffies with nolva

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    what is dex or femara??? is it slang for something????

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    Originally posted by jrocker25
    what is dex or femara??? is it slang for something????
    arimidex (aka anastrozole)
    Femara (letrozole )

    aromatase inhibitors

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