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02-08-2011, 01:16 PM #1Associate Member
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PLEASE HELP...PLEASE...panicking
been suffering ED post cycle for alomost 3 months
finally went to doctor to gte bloood work done
and test and estradiol came back in range
prolactin came back <1.0L (out of range)...normal is 2.0 to 18.0ng/ml..
i have a feeeling the caber used during tren did more harm than good
can this be causing my ED....if so, im heading to urologist on Monday...what should i expect him to presecrube
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02-08-2011, 01:18 PM #2
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02-08-2011, 01:19 PM #3Associate Member
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becuse caber decrease prolactin..
my prolactin came back TOO LOW
did takin the caber mess me up, make my prolactin too low and give me the Ed
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02-08-2011, 01:22 PM #4
not sure man you should wait for a vet to chime in on this and give you some advice. Good luck bro
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02-08-2011, 01:23 PM #5Associate Member
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i hope so pal..........
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02-08-2011, 02:18 PM #6Associate Member
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02-08-2011, 02:45 PM #7
384 Test tells u nothing until u compare it with your SHBG, and get your FREE TEST index derived from it.
Check your SBHG. If too high, thatīs your answer.
Re Prolactin....Iīm no expert, but TOO HIGH prolactin inhibits the sekretion or the effect of your Dopamin!!...which will cause ED.
If this was the case, there are drugs u can take to stimulate Dopamin secretion.
Other than that....chill out and be patient, so u donīt trigger psycological ED, and stay away from the Blue pill, as many resort to here (Pavlovīs Dog!!!!!!!)
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02-08-2011, 06:00 PM #9New Member
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02-08-2011, 07:07 PM #10Junior Member
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02-08-2011, 07:25 PM #11Associate Member
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02-08-2011, 07:46 PM #12Junior Member
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It will right it's self in time no doubt, abstian for a while till you get back to normal is my advice.
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02-08-2011, 09:10 PM #13
how long of a cycle did you do?
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02-08-2011, 09:37 PM #14New Member
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If your natural production is shot then you may need replacement.....
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02-08-2011, 10:45 PM #15
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02-08-2011, 10:49 PM #16New Member
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If HCG fails and his natural production doesn't come back there is no other choice...
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02-09-2011, 12:02 AM #17
Did you run a good PCT?
I had the same issue coming off of deca . Took me some time to get my libido back. I ordered mana root from Amazon and either it did the trick or my levels are coming back on thier own. I get a blood test tomorrow and this will tell me for sure.
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02-09-2011, 03:59 AM #18
Association!
When you walk by Tony Romaīs and smell those BBY Back ribs, u become hungry. However if u are a vegetarian, the smell of burnt flesh might make u vomit.
When you see the dessert tray from the Cheesecake factory your mouth start watering, but if youīve never tasted a dessert, youīll feel nothing.
This is your subconscious mind at work.
Dontīt start to associate the blue pill with sex, it will soon be associated with a rock hard penis that can go 3-4 times/night. A pair of long hot legs ending in a round juicy ass will still look hot, but what will cause bloodflow to the penis, will be the thought of, or the sight of the blue pill package/bottle. As the smell makes your mouth water, the pill, will make you horny. The hot legs without the pill could actually only cause anxiety.
The subconscious mind makes up 97% of our brain....donīt f... with it!
AAS users are also big users of the pill. Not actually because we "need", but we are not "average" males, or we wouldnīt be on this forum in the first place. "Bigger, better , stronger" does not end when we walk out the door at the Gym, but is a part of our personality, and effect everything we do and every decision we make.....weīre "Alpha-males".....hehe...it is what it is..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning
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02-09-2011, 01:01 PM #19Associate Member
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What was your cycle? What did you run and for how long?
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02-09-2011, 04:26 PM #20Associate Member
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my cycle
my cycle was 12 weeks
250 sust...250 tren ....shot twice a week with .025 caber twice a week
felt great on cycle
for PCT
did clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20 /20 ///thats 4 weeks total
once the PCT stopped...my libido stopped
havent had a good ereection in 2 ,months..EVEN WITH CIALIS
test levels came back at 384.
i have a mtg with urologist on monday to go over my options
wondering if i should just blow off hos recommendation if its consevative
and start HCG on my own and then follow it up with clomid n nolva again to kick srart my testes to produce more test
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02-09-2011, 07:10 PM #21
tren shuts you down hard.You may need more pct.Speak to a vet before you do anything.
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02-09-2011, 07:43 PM #22New Member
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Many people would have recommended that you run your testosterone for 2 weeks longer than your tren to help combat this problem. Clomid dose is a little lower than usual as most would advise a 100/100/50/50 split. Also since tren is a 19-nor its almost impossible to avoid testicular atrophy which is why you see many people run HCG before the cessation of their cycle to give their testes a kick-start. My guess would be that you ran your tren for too long and didn't have a thorough enough PCT. How to combat your problem is something that I do not have enough knowledge to give you advice in good faith.
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02-09-2011, 08:54 PM #23Associate Member
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thanks
I APPRECIATE UR HONESTY
sounds like my best approach is HCG for 10 days
then CLOMID/NOVALDEX for a month at higher doses than i was runnings
maybe clomid 150/100/ 50/50
novaledez 40/40/20/20
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02-09-2011, 08:58 PM #24
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wait and see what the doc says, some of the 'advice' in here is beyond stupid
what age are you?
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02-09-2011, 09:02 PM #25
you doc says you in the correct range???? what the **** does he know about correct range? lol yep it pisses me off to here docs talk about things they know nothing about...
any ways you test should b 550 to 900 and you need to know the correct ration between bound and non bound test... freetest
then you can really start eliminating that as an issue... other wise you need to go see endo doc as well as uroligist
get a script for somthing that hardens you up till you get it figured out
good luck
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02-09-2011, 09:07 PM #26Associate Member
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im 30 yrs old
completely healthy in all pother areas
but cialis or viagra isnt working...my dick is ****in dead bro
hopin this UROLOGIST isnt a ***** and has an aggresssive approch to help me out...
384 seems low for someone my age
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02-09-2011, 09:17 PM #27
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tren shuts you down hard but after 3mths you should be some what online.
i dont pct anymore (trt) and kinda outa touch with what works best these days
i'll alert swifto to this thread, he's the expert on this
hold tight and im sure he'll advise you on how to approach this
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02-09-2011, 09:33 PM #28Associate Member
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02-10-2011, 09:22 AM #29
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its poss you may have to go on trt, but we could shoot in the dark for eternity here, get to a doc who knows wat they are doing.
i pm'd swifto, im sure he'll get to this thread at some point
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