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    PLEASE HELP...PLEASE...panicking

    been suffering ED post cycle for alomost 3 months

    finally went to doctor to gte bloood work done
    and test and estradiol came back in range

    prolactin came back <1.0L (out of range)...normal is 2.0 to 18.0ng/ml..
    i have a feeeling the caber used during tren did more harm than good


    can this be causing my ED....if so, im heading to urologist on Monday...what should i expect him to presecrube

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRAMBRO View Post
    been suffering ED post cycle for alomost 3 months

    finally went to doctor to gte bloood work done
    and test and estradiol came back in range

    prolactin came back <1.0L (out of range)...normal is 2.0 to 18.0ng/ml..
    i have a feeeling the caber used during tren did more harm than good


    can this be causing my ED....if so, im heading to urologist on Monday...what should i expect him to presecrube
    not understanding the bold

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    becuse caber decrease prolactin..

    my prolactin came back TOO LOW

    did takin the caber mess me up, make my prolactin too low and give me the Ed

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    not sure man you should wait for a vet to chime in on this and give you some advice. Good luck bro

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    i hope so pal..........

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    test level

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    i hope so pal..........
    also noticed my test level is at 384...normal range 241 to 827


    maybe this is the issue

    384 is the test level of a 60 yr old man..im 30 and healthy

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    384 Test tells u nothing until u compare it with your SHBG, and get your FREE TEST index derived from it.
    Check your SBHG. If too high, thatīs your answer.
    Re Prolactin....Iīm no expert, but TOO HIGH prolactin inhibits the sekretion or the effect of your Dopamin!!...which will cause ED.
    If this was the case, there are drugs u can take to stimulate Dopamin secretion.
    Other than that....chill out and be patient, so u donīt trigger psycological ED, and stay away from the Blue pill, as many resort to here (Pavlovīs Dog!!!!!!!)

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    1st off take it easy ,dont panick that will make things snow ball the mind is powerfull, keep positive. you will find your solution.
    Quote Originally Posted by DRAMBRO View Post
    been suffering ED post cycle for alomost 3 months

    finally went to doctor to gte bloood work done
    and test and estradiol came back in range

    prolactin came back <1.0L (out of range)...normal is 2.0 to 18.0ng/ml..
    i have a feeeling the caber used during tren did more harm than good


    can this be causing my ED....if so, im heading to urologist on Monday...what should i expect him to presecrube

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRAMBRO View Post
    been suffering ED post cycle for alomost 3 months

    finally went to doctor to gte bloood work done
    and test and estradiol came back in range

    prolactin came back <1.0L (out of range)...normal is 2.0 to 18.0ng/ml..
    i have a feeeling the caber used during tren did more harm than good


    can this be causing my ED....if so, im heading to urologist on Monday...what should i expect him to presecrube
    Your Test level was "IN RANGE" from a DOCTORS PERSPECTIVE that could be 300......which obviously would cause a low sex drive.....my guess would be your level is low, throw in some test and stop worrying

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Timer 42 View Post
    384 Test tells u nothing until u compare it with your SHBG, and get your FREE TEST index derived from it.
    Check your SBHG. If too high, thatīs your answer.
    Re Prolactin....Iīm no expert, but TOO HIGH prolactin inhibits the sekretion or the effect of your Dopamin!!...which will cause ED.
    If this was the case, there are drugs u can take to stimulate Dopamin secretion.
    Other than that....chill out and be patient, so u donīt trigger psycological ED, and stay away from the Blue pill, as many resort to here (Pavlovīs Dog!!!!!!!)
    What's wrong with the blue pill?

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    test

    Quote Originally Posted by stugots View Post
    Your Test level was "IN RANGE" from a DOCTORS PERSPECTIVE that could be 300......which obviously would cause a low sex drive.....my guess would be your level is low, throw in some test and stop worrying


    throw in some test...what??

    i dont wannna be on gear my whole life............just want this fixed

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    It will right it's self in time no doubt, abstian for a while till you get back to normal is my advice.

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    how long of a cycle did you do?

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    If your natural production is shot then you may need replacement.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by stugots View Post
    Your Test level was "IN RANGE" from a DOCTORS PERSPECTIVE that could be 300......which obviously would cause a low sex drive.....my guess would be your level is low, throw in some test and stop worrying
    This advice is false. Taking test will only hinder the bodys ability to produce its own test. Thats like fighting fire with fire...not a very intelligent decision.

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    If HCG fails and his natural production doesn't come back there is no other choice...

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    Did you run a good PCT?
    I had the same issue coming off of deca . Took me some time to get my libido back. I ordered mana root from Amazon and either it did the trick or my levels are coming back on thier own. I get a blood test tomorrow and this will tell me for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gedtec View Post
    What's wrong with the blue pill?
    Association!

    When you walk by Tony Romaīs and smell those BBY Back ribs, u become hungry. However if u are a vegetarian, the smell of burnt flesh might make u vomit.
    When you see the dessert tray from the Cheesecake factory your mouth start watering, but if youīve never tasted a dessert, youīll feel nothing.
    This is your subconscious mind at work.
    Dontīt start to associate the blue pill with sex, it will soon be associated with a rock hard penis that can go 3-4 times/night. A pair of long hot legs ending in a round juicy ass will still look hot, but what will cause bloodflow to the penis, will be the thought of, or the sight of the blue pill package/bottle. As the smell makes your mouth water, the pill, will make you horny. The hot legs without the pill could actually only cause anxiety.
    The subconscious mind makes up 97% of our brain....donīt f... with it!
    AAS users are also big users of the pill. Not actually because we "need", but we are not "average" males, or we wouldnīt be on this forum in the first place. "Bigger, better , stronger" does not end when we walk out the door at the Gym, but is a part of our personality, and effect everything we do and every decision we make.....weīre "Alpha-males".....hehe...it is what it is..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning

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    What was your cycle? What did you run and for how long?

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    my cycle

    my cycle was 12 weeks

    250 sust...250 tren ....shot twice a week with .025 caber twice a week


    felt great on cycle

    for PCT

    did clomid 50/50/25/25
    nolva 40/40/20 /20 ///thats 4 weeks total


    once the PCT stopped...my libido stopped

    havent had a good ereection in 2 ,months..EVEN WITH CIALIS


    test levels came back at 384.
    i have a mtg with urologist on monday to go over my options

    wondering if i should just blow off hos recommendation if its consevative

    and start HCG on my own and then follow it up with clomid n nolva again to kick srart my testes to produce more test

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    tren shuts you down hard.You may need more pct.Speak to a vet before you do anything.

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    Many people would have recommended that you run your testosterone for 2 weeks longer than your tren to help combat this problem. Clomid dose is a little lower than usual as most would advise a 100/100/50/50 split. Also since tren is a 19-nor its almost impossible to avoid testicular atrophy which is why you see many people run HCG before the cessation of their cycle to give their testes a kick-start. My guess would be that you ran your tren for too long and didn't have a thorough enough PCT. How to combat your problem is something that I do not have enough knowledge to give you advice in good faith.

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    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by dolla$ign View Post
    Many people would have recommended that you run your testosterone for 2 weeks longer than your tren to help combat this problem. Clomid dose is a little lower than usual as most would advise a 100/100/50/50 split. Also since tren is a 19-nor its almost impossible to avoid testicular atrophy which is why you see many people run HCG before the cessation of their cycle to give their testes a kick-start. My guess would be that you ran your tren for too long and didn't have a thorough enough PCT. How to combat your problem is something that I do not have enough knowledge to give you advice in good faith.
    I APPRECIATE UR HONESTY

    sounds like my best approach is HCG for 10 days

    then CLOMID/NOVALDEX for a month at higher doses than i was runnings

    maybe clomid 150/100/ 50/50
    novaledez 40/40/20/20

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    wait and see what the doc says, some of the 'advice' in here is beyond stupid

    what age are you?

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    you doc says you in the correct range???? what the **** does he know about correct range? lol yep it pisses me off to here docs talk about things they know nothing about...

    any ways you test should b 550 to 900 and you need to know the correct ration between bound and non bound test... freetest

    then you can really start eliminating that as an issue... other wise you need to go see endo doc as well as uroligist

    get a script for somthing that hardens you up till you get it figured out

    good luck

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    im 30 yrs old

    completely healthy in all pother areas

    but cialis or viagra isnt working...my dick is ****in dead bro

    hopin this UROLOGIST isnt a ***** and has an aggresssive approch to help me out...

    384 seems low for someone my age

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    tren shuts you down hard but after 3mths you should be some what online.

    i dont pct anymore (trt) and kinda outa touch with what works best these days

    i'll alert swifto to this thread, he's the expert on this

    hold tight and im sure he'll advise you on how to approach this

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    tren shuts you down hard but after 3mths you should be some what online.

    i dont pct anymore (trt) and kinda outa touch with what works best these days

    i'll alert swifto to this thread, he's the expert on this

    hold tight and im sure he'll advise you on how to approach this
    THANKS!!

    i know its not prolactin related

    toook caber and my prolactin came out reall low on bloood work

    think the 384 test number is the issue

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    its poss you may have to go on trt, but we could shoot in the dark for eternity here, get to a doc who knows wat they are doing.

    i pm'd swifto, im sure he'll get to this thread at some point

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