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    2nd cycle - Test 400 & Tren 150

    Im going to start my second cycle using:
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    Test-Mix 400mg 10ml vial
    Tri-Tren 150mg 10ml vial

    I was wondering the best way to do this for good gains!

    My friend told me to do two injections per week: example

    1ml 400mg test and 1ml 150mg of tren on a monday and then again on thursday.

    Im just wondering if this sounds like a good cycle or have you any better ideas?

    I have done a lot of research, belive it or not but i would appriciate some pointers!

    Stats:
    Weight 75kg
    Height 175cm 5,9
    Age 20 yrs

    Lean build

    Training 2 yrs - 4 to 5 times a week

    Max rep:
    Bench press 105kg
    Bicep curl 50 kg

    Weekly amounts:
    800mg of test
    300mg of tren

    Total: 1100mg

    Blends:
    (Testosterone Cyp, Enanth & Prop)

    (Trenbolone Enanthate )

    Not sure about tren, waiting untill friday to get it not sure if it tri tren if not Enath.

    Im also getting another bottle of test and tren in a few weeks to make a 8 - 10 week cycle.

    Pct:
    Still have to purchase
    Was thinking nolva and clomid or just the one?

    Not sure about HCG

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    20 yrs old your going to do your 2nd cycle and pin that much juice....really

    what was your first cycle and when was it as well

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    First cycle was 10 weeks:
    400mg test mix 1ml every week and 40mg of dbol for the first four weeks!

    I didnt make much gains tbh

    It sounds like a lot to me as well lol
    Do you think 6 weeks would be appropriate?
    Last edited by Belfast; 10-27-2011 at 08:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belfast View Post
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    First cycle was 10 weeks:
    400mg test mix and 40mg of dbol for the first four weeks!

    I didnt make much gains tbh

    It sounds like a lot to me as well lol
    Do you think 6 weeks would be appropriate?
    Honestly...I don't believe you cycling is appropriate period...why your to young...you did one cycle already with no success says your diet and or knowledge were lacking

    your last cycle was just done you havent had the required time off between your next cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belfast
    Im going to start my second cycle using:
    -
    Test-Mix 400mg 10ml vial
    Tri-Tren 150mg 10ml vial

    I was wondering the best way to do this for good gains!

    My friend told me to do two injections per week: example

    1ml 400mg test and 1ml 150mg of tren on a monday and then again on thursday.

    Im just wondering if this sounds like a good cycle or have you any better ideas?

    I have done a lot of research, belive it or not but i would appriciate some pointers!

    Stats:
    Weight 75kg
    Height 175cm 5,9
    Age 20 yrs

    Lean build

    Training 2 yrs - 4 to 5 times a week

    Max rep:
    Bench press 105kg
    Bicep curl 50 kg

    Weekly amounts:
    800mg of test
    300mg of tren

    Total: 1100mg

    Blends:
    (Testosterone Cyp, Enanth & Prop)

    (Trenbolone Enanthate )

    Not sure about tren, waiting untill friday to get it not sure if it tri tren if not Enath.

    Im also getting another bottle of test and tren in a few weeks to make a 8 - 10 week cycle.

    Pct:
    Still have to purchase
    Was thinking nolva and clomid or just the one?

    Not sure about HCG
    First your too young and second if it's the 400 mix I think your referring to it's not all test! 200 Deca and 200 test mix so you would be only doing 400 test and 400 Deca which IMO means your heavy on Deca in relation to test! Read your package and if you can't speak Spanish get someone to translate! Lol

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    You are too young and if you couldnt make gains on that first cycle you don`t know how to train and eat properly.

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    All decent points, but no one has let you know that you only have enough for 4 weeks.

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    I gained half a stone from my first cycle but didnt use pct so i lost it
    Im going to be well prepared for this 1

    The Test is: Cyp, Prop & Enath!
    Thier is no deca included and its british producut
    Last edited by Belfast; 10-28-2011 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belfast View Post
    I gained half a stone from my first cycle but didnt use pct so i lost it
    Im going to be well prepared for this 1

    The Test is: Cyp, Prop & Enath!
    Thier is no deca included and its british producut
    That's good because there is a product that says supertest 400 and if a person dosen't bother reading the mizture than they will be missled into thinking it'a all Test! I personally don't like the mixes because its hard to keep track and measure the total amount of each!

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    Last edited by Belfast; 10-28-2011 at 08:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASTERMIKE 48
    That's good because there is a product that says supertest 400 and if a person dosen't bother reading the mizture than they will be missled into thinking it'a all Test! I personally don't like the mixes because its hard to keep track and measure the total amount of each!
    Thanks for the reply mastermike!
    It is top rated gear and i have heard from a few people
    I honestly would not take it otherwise

    Yes Its my second cycle and people might think Its to much because Im 20, but then others don't :/

    I joined this to hear other peoples views and advice and Is what i have been give.

    Much appriciated!

    Does It sound like to much at my age ?
    You might say yes Im just curious

    Thanks
    Last edited by Belfast; 10-28-2011 at 09:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete
    All decent points, but no one has let you know that you only have enough for 4 weeks.
    Thanks spete

    Thats right what you said
    Im going to purchase another bottle of each before i run out

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    Couple of things. It doesn't look like you have enough for a proper cycle. You're running waaaay too much tren and test for your size and experience unless the product is sub par. Let me put it this way. When I gave my buddy the test I get for my TRT, he saw better gains from 400mgs/week than he did using 1000mgs/week of a "good ugl". Verify verify and re-verify your source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkishexpress
    Couple of things. It doesn't look like you have enough for a proper cycle. You're running waaaay too much tren and test for your size and experience unless the product is sub par. Let me put it this way. When I gave my buddy the test I get for my TRT, he saw better gains from 400mgs/week than he did using 1000mgs/week of a "good ugl". Verify verify and re-verify your source.
    My gains of my first cycle was half a stone using 400mg test mix a week with 40mg of dbol for the first 4 weeks.
    All togeather it lasted 10 weeks

    Thier is 3 ways i can think of running this cycle:

    1. 400mg Test Mix 150mg of tren for 8 - 10 weeks of two 10ml vials

    2. 800mg Test mix 300mg of tren for 8 - 10 weeks of four 10ml vials

    3. I could round it inbetween the two above for 8 - 12 weeks
    Last edited by Belfast; 10-29-2011 at 09:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belfast View Post
    My gains of my first cycle was half a stone using 400mg test mix a week with 40mg of dbol for the first 4 weeks.
    All togeather it lasted 10 weeks

    Thier is 3 ways i can think of running this cycle:

    1. 400mg Test Mix 150mg of tren for 8 - 10 weeks of two 10ml vials

    2. 800mg Test mix 300mg of tren for 8 - 10 weeks of four 10ml vials

    3. I could round it inbetween the two above for 8 - 12 weeks
    For some reason u seem 2 b over looking / ignoring the significant risk of damage 2 ur Endocrine / HPTA brought on by cycling @ ur age. Just cuz there r a couple careless users here that r willing 2 help u cycle, doesn't mean u should. B smart man.

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    I would think its safe to assume that you first cycle didnt go great because your diet isnt what it should be. and that will be your results of this cycle if you dont fix your diet first. No amount of mg's can make up for a poor nutrition.

    2nd. That is way to much for you. Once you get your diet straight. just run the test at 400mg per week for 10 weeks.
    You dont need tren to make gains. save your money and the bad side effects.

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    Maybe your right
    What age do you think I should start cycling

    I heard no younger than 20 also people say 21 and others say 25?
    Last edited by Belfast; 10-29-2011 at 11:09 AM.

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    25 would be best. But the longer the better. The only people you will hear say 20 is good is other 20 year olds

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I would think its safe to assume that you first cycle didnt go great because your diet isnt what it should be. and that will be your results of this cycle if you dont fix your diet first. No amount of mg's can make up for a poor nutrition.

    2nd. That is way to much for you. Once you get your diet straight. just run the test at 400mg per week for 10 weeks.
    You dont need tren to make gains. save your money and the bad side effects.
    Good advice!

    Im going to sort my diet out I no It all comes down to good nutrition and eating every 2-3 hrs

    Do you not think half a stone was good gains for my first cycle?

    Lost It cause no pct
    I no that was stupid now lol

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belfast View Post
    Maybe your right
    What age do you think I should start cycling

    I heard no younger than 20 also people say 21 and others say 25?
    I recommend 25, that way ur positive ur "outa the woods" so 2 speak. Mak no mistake, there is still risk after 25, but the risk of doin potentially permanent damage 2 ur undeveloped Endocrine is nil, bcuz by the age of 25, ur system is fully developed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    25 would be best. But the longer the better. The only people you will hear say 20 is good is other 20 year olds
    Well Im going to have a good long think about It

    Maybe Im better leaving It a few years untill my test levels naturally drop

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79
    I recommend 25, that way ur positive ur "outa the woods" so 2 speak. Mak no mistake, there is still risk after 25, but the risk of doin potentially permanent damage 2 ur undeveloped Endocrine is nil, bcuz by the age of 25, ur system is fully developed.
    Brilliant advice thanks
    I will start stacking up creatines and all in ones instead

    Do you no any supplements that i could use that works well?

    I have used different creatines:

    cretamax extreme
    no explode
    superpump max

    All in ones:

    synergy
    cyclone
    muscle fuel anabolic

    And others plus protiens

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79
    For some reason u seem 2 b over looking / ignoring the significant risk of damage 2 ur Endocrine / HPTA brought on by cycling @ ur age. Just cuz there r a couple careless users here that r willing 2 help u cycle, doesn't mean u should. B smart man.
    I totally agree with you on this subject of young people doing cycles! I don't advocate it but these kids seem to have a mind of their own these days! I only hope they know the risks and if they go against our advice on waiting my only hope is if they decide to do it anyway at least they are doing it right! Hope that doesn't offend anyone!

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