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    Lightbulb Deca/D-bol Stack???

    I am working on setting up my first cycle. My stats are 6'0, 170lbs with about 15% b/f and my max on bench is 215. I am looking at putting on about 15-20lbs. Let me know what you think about this cycle for a beginner.

    wks 1-4 25mg DBol
    wks 1-8 300mg or 400mg Deca -Durabolin (trying to decide)

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    Age?

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    you sound young ...how old are you ?

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    Im 19yrs old

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    I know I still might me too young but its my desicion

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    Thats right, you are still too young.

    And yes it is your decision, but it would be a poor one to take part in at this time.

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    What else is really so bad about being young? I'm already at the point where I will stop growing, Im just as big as my dad and Im fine with my height.

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    The point is that you can still grow i.e. put on more weight naturally without any aas fairly easy at your age. Later, if you do wait, it would benifit you more.

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    Originally posted by Angus
    What else is really so bad about being young? I'm already at the point where I will stop growing, Im just as big as my dad and Im fine with my height.
    Bullshit, change your diet and training. Something is not working for you.

    There is never a point in where you just cant grow, it may become impracticle 300lbs+ but still possible. Anyone who thinks they need steroids for that reason is full of shit.

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    Well, actually I have done one cycle before, it was a short one and I was stupid and didnt research enough. I did it for like 6 weeks and got really sick off of it and I didnt even gain but 5lbs. I did ultragan and test enanthat. So do you think I will still grow or what should I do in this case?

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    You can always grow. Look into other dieting and training routines.

    Besides, wait till your a little older. Set yourself a goal. Get to XXX lbs then start.

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    Listen if you gonna do this at 19 you might as well do it right.

    Week 1-4 35mg Dbol ED
    Week 1-10 300mg Deca 1x Week

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    angus, bro! i did my 1st at 19, didnt stunt growth, actually you should pray that your platesarent closed, cause ifthey r open, test makes them grow, lol. dont flame at me please! try this cycle

    week 1 - 10: 300mg deca /ew
    week 1 - 8: sus 500mg/ew
    week 1 - 4: dbol 40mg/ed

    take milk of thistle to detox liver, your epiphysical plates have prolyl closed if you are dads height, plus i no where you are comming from. i know exactly how you feel! im not gonna tell you to do this, just think about it very very hard ! make sure you also purchase some anti-estrogens, number 1 mistake is thinking you wont get gyno, cause you will (maybe). anyways good luck, btw, a d-bol deca cycle isnt all that great for 20 lbs of mass, well you will gain 25 lbs while on the cycle, but you will lose 10 - 12 lbs after, throw in a test like sus, or enth, preferably sus. alot of guys are gonna say im wrong, but remember one thing, I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL!
    also, if it makes you feel better, most body builders juice from like 16/17... also im 5'11 and am fien with my height, if your like 5'7, like shawn ray who obviously stunted his growth, or leee priest then i would wait, but 6ft is good, and remember it is easy for people on this board to tell you you are too young, most of them didnt have ot make that decision at your age. i know from experinece. Flame on people !
    Last edited by gundam675; 04-30-2003 at 11:19 PM.

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    Don't do either one of those cycles, they are poorly laid out and you need to wait a few more years.

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    Thumbs down

    First off, take their advice and wait! You have plenty of time to juice!!! I know you want the size now but you should wait. Read up on some threads, and educate your self on the subject of waiting.

    If you are hell bent on doing a cycle, and are going to do it no mater what your told, do a lot of research before diving in to something this serious. Search the board for cycle information and be safe!

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    thanks guys, I really appreciate your help and advise!!!

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