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    Anavar with Test-E

    I would take var every day for 6 weeks. I would start with 50mg and work my way up to 80mg.

    Week 1: 50mg var every day, test-e Monday Thursday 250mg a week, letro every other day .5mg
    Week 2 : 60mg var every day, test-e Monday Thursday 250mg a week, letro every other day .5mg
    Week 3: 70mg var every day, test-e Monday Thursday 250mg a week, letro every other day .5mg
    Week 4-6: 80mg var every day, test-e Monday Thursday 250mg a week, letro every other day .5mg
    Weeks 7-12: test-e Monday Thursday 250mg a week, letro every other day

    Depending on how var reacts I will either lower my dose or keep it like what is above. The letro is so that I don’t get gyno while on my cycle.

    Then for my pct I will start to take it two weeks after my last pin, Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. Along with HCG (im not sure the dosage that I need). Should I take clomid as well any suggestions on an anti-e? Is there a better pct that I should take? Is my dosage of letro okay or should I increase or decrease it? Please tell me the pros and cons and any other information necessary thank you. Has anyone done this before?

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    What are you hoping to get out of Var? It is "in my humble opinion" a cosmetic drug for men. I was XERO impressed on it as far as any measurable gains were concerned. I liked the vascularity.

    If this is your first cycle focus on the testosterone . No doubt the Var will make you feel good at your BF% with your veins popping out like worms. I prefer Stane for Anti-e...easier to measure properly in powder form and at your test dose should work nicely. 12.5 mg every 3 days first 2 weeks then 25 every 3 days there after. The rest others can answer. i do not PCT...TRT patient.

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    Thanks for your post, yes this is my first cycle, I was hoping to get lean, hardness while also getting bigger my ultimate goal is be be 185 with 7% BF. I know you dont gain much weight from it, my research that I have done on anavar states that what you gain is pretty much perminent due to little water retention I would like to keep the most that I can.

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    A good practise of HCG is to use while on cycle weeks 1-12 500 ius(250 ius every3.5 days). This will prevent testicular atrophy. As well as promote a swift recovery by stimulating your LH while on cycle. Letro is hard to manage carefull you don't crush your e2 Lvls. I would drop the anavar and run Test only. You have your whole life to cycle. See how your body reacts to the base of all steroids ( testosterone ).

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    So basically dont use HCG after for pct, just while your on test. Should I take that on Monday Thursday, the days I pin or in between those days? If I dont take the letro and just take the HCG wont I be susceptible to gyno then? Also, what would my end pct look like, (sorry for all the questions).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    What are you hoping to get out of Var? It is "in my humble opinion" a cosmetic drug for men. I was XERO impressed on it as far as any measurable gains were concerned. I liked the vascularity.

    If this is your first cycle focus on the testosterone. No doubt the Var will make you feel good at your BF% with your veins popping out like worms. I prefer Stane for Anti-e...easier to measure properly in powder form and at your test dose should work nicely. 12.5 mg every 3 days first 2 weeks then 25 every 3 days there after. The rest others can answer. i do not PCT...TRT patient.
    strange stane is not very effective on males, i would rec 25mg ed.. did you ever get blood work on cycle on that dose of only 12.5mg e3d?

    I do liek and rec dex or letro, but letro keep dose very low, it is easy to dose in RC liquid, i rec 0.25mg-o.6mg eod-2x a week ( depending on cycle. I like 0.6mg-1.2mg 2x a week. go by bloods IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by GANZZILLA View Post
    So basically dont use HCG after for pct, just while your on test. Should I take that on Monday Thursday, the days I pin or in between those days? If I dont take the letro and just take the HCG wont I be susceptible to gyno then? Also, what would my end pct look like, (sorry for all the questions).
    use ucg on cycle or the last few weeks ( i rec) leading up to BUT NOT into PCT @ 500iu 2x a week. Yes use an AI from start of cycle to start of pct IMO

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    Read this link and follow it to the letter and you'll do well:

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
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    To the original poster, this cycle sucks.

    also, you're never going to 'feel' the var; especially if you're on test. I've used a lot of var. var is something you notice in the gym, and not suddenly. if you go off of how you 'feel' you'll be at 100mg in a few weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Read this link and follow it to the letter and you'll do well:

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
    Skip most of the advise given here.....read this link. Has everything u need to know.

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    Okay so this is what i need to do then
    week 1-12 test e 250mg monday thursday 500mg a week
    week1-12 hcg 250 iu monday thursday
    week 1-14 arimi dex .25mg eod
    PCT should consist of Clo mid 75/50/50/50 with Nolva 40/20/20/20 14 days after my last pin
    take liver control, and get blood work done pre cycle, during, 7 weeks in, and post cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GANZZILLA View Post
    Okay so this is what i need to do then
    week 1-12 test e 250mg monday thursday 500mg a week
    week1-12 hcg 250 iu monday thursday
    week 1-14 arimi dex .25mg eod
    PCT should consist of Clo mid 75/50/50/50 with Nolva 40/20/20/20 14 days after my last pin
    take liver control, and get blood work done pre cycle, during, 7 weeks in, and post cycle.
    That looks good.

    What r u thinking for liver control.

    Have you posted your diet in the diet section??

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    I was thinking liv-52 however in the reading I saw something else, what would you suggest? I have posted in there before but I'm going to do that next to make sure it is on point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GANZZILLA View Post
    I was thinking liv-52 however in the reading I saw something else, what would you suggest? I have posted in there before but I'm going to do that next to make sure it is on point.
    Most use NAC. ...1200MG on cycle....1800 if using an oral. Good to use off cycle also...at 600.

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    Okay I'll see if I can get my hands on it thanks for your input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GANZZILLA View Post
    Okay I'll see if I can get my hands on it thanks for your input.
    Amazon. ....very easy

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    Okay I will use that.

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