Thread: Proper Protein Intake?
07-20-2003, 05:10 PM #1
Proper Protein Intake?
Hi guys, I weigh 180 lbs and want to put on 20 lbs of muscle. As soon as I can get some gear, I want to try a cycle of sus/eq stack. I think my body fat % is like 15 %. I want to have that under 10%. But thatís for later, and for low carb & clen help. Right now, I just want to focus on gaining muscle mass w/o adding to body fat %.
I have read that I should intake 1.7 grams of protein for every pound of lean body mass weight that I want to be. Therefore, for 200 lbs at 15%, I should ingest 289 grams of protein per day, which sounds insane. I have read on other posts that no more than 200 of those grams should come from supplements (powders/bars). This is going to be tough.
My question is that Iíve ALSO heard that our bodies cannot digest, absorb or utilize any more than 25-30 grams of protein at once. That the excess of that at one time will be flushed away unused. Is this true? If thatís true, and Iím supposed to eat 6 times edÖit doesnít add up. Iíd have to ingest 30 grams over around 10 times ed. And Iím assuming that each meal should be separated by about 3 hours. That doesnít add up. There isnít enough time in a day. Ideally, Iím only awake for 16 hrs ed anyway to recoup. Would 46 grams taken 6 times ed be digested?? Can someone please help me out with this? Thanks!!
Hereís an example of protein intake from another member:
Wake up 9ish
6 egg whites scrambled with ham - about 30gram
Tall glass 2% milk(hate skim) - 10 gram
Follow with one scoop shake - 25 gram
Protein shake with bananna or something - 65gram
Can of Tuna - 35 gram
Protein shake - 25 gram
Some sort of Chicken - 40 gram
another protein shake - 25 gram
6 or 7
Can of chilli or something easy like that for my lazy ass - 25 gram
Boca burger - 20 gram
Yet another Protein shake - 25 gram
9 or 10
Protein shake - 65 gram
It looks like a lot of the protein this guy is taking in will be wasted, wonít it?
07-20-2003, 05:53 PM #2
No thats rediculous. For one, food and liquid protien wont absorb at the same time anyways so you could easily take a meal and shake at the same time at one sitting and be able to absorb it all. And you will eventually adapt anyways too it. I easily take in 400 grams of protien a day. A good 150-175 comes within 2-3hrs post workout
07-20-2003, 06:16 PM #3New Member
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alright, first matter of business, gaining muscle without gaining fat, ain't gonna happen. it is possible, but it requires a fine tuned diet, supp intake, and superrior genetics. without these things, it would be a crawl. a more effective stratagy would be the bulk and cut dieting phases. for example, i was bulking untill two months ago. i would consume an average of 350 grams of protien and 350 grams of carbs per day. now i am cutting, i consume 225 grams of protien, and 150 grams of carbs per day. while protien absorbtion is variable, i believe that the average individual is capable of assimilationg up to 100g of protien in a sitting. so if you are bulking, and at the same time are on gear, you should be eating at least 300-500 grams of protien a day and around the same amount of carbs. don't go keto while bulking, do it while cutting. yes, space it out in as many meals as possible. definatley no more than three hours between meals. as for how much of it should come from powders, i don't know, but i try to get as much from food as i can.
02-10-2005, 07:02 PM #4
i want to get ripped i weight 184.3 and have 9% body fat i aim 5'11" and 18yrs old whats effective and safe or just effective and what should the diet look like
02-10-2005, 07:18 PM #5Associate Member
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just eat all the time... it works for me and add some cardio to keep down the body fat
02-10-2005, 07:22 PM #6
You're not going to gain muscle and cut at the same time very effectively because your diet has to be tuned toward whichever you want to do.
02-10-2005, 07:40 PM #7
i know but atleast some what keep up the muscle mass not gain muscle mass and as for cardio i do it everyday 4 times a week and my metabolism is relatively slow im not the ripped type also what the hell is e/c/y
02-10-2005, 07:49 PM #8
newtogear - without carbs you will have a hard time reaching your goal of 20 pounds....... Carbs are way too important to keep out of your diet and even more so if you're looking to gain.
02-10-2005, 08:22 PM #9Originally Posted by L-carnatine
You need carbs in your PWO and PPWO at least to maintain/repair muscle.
02-10-2005, 09:16 PM #10
high protein makes you very suseptable to gaut....but hey im still taking in 200 grams
02-11-2005, 03:51 AM #11Member
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I dont believe that your body can only digest so much protein at one sitting thats like saying if you eat a 300g steak only about 3og of protein will be absorbed and your body will excrete the rest, but the steak is digested slowly throughout the day,
I myself eat over 600g protein a day while on a diet and over 400g a day off season of which about 200g comes from shakes the rest from solid food spread over 7 meals a day youn also have to remember that AAS increase protein synthesis.
02-11-2005, 09:56 AM #12Junior Member
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[QUOTE=L-carnatine]i want to get ripped i weight 184.3 and have 9% body fat i aim 5'11" and 18yrs old whats effective and safe or just effective and what should the diet look like[/QUO
02-13-2005, 08:22 PM #13
gut?Originally Posted by twiztidjuggalo74
02-16-2005, 03:07 PM #14Anabolic Member
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What is the proper protein intake amount for someone not on AAS or just coming off the cycle??
02-16-2005, 07:55 PM #15
shouldn't this be in the diet forum?
02-16-2005, 08:39 PM #16Originally Posted by L-carnatine
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