A bad first cycle (IMO)

[Ex_banana-eater]

This is a first cycle for my friend

Weeks 1-4 winstrol EOD 100mg
Weeks 4-8 winstrol/fina. Winstrol 100mg EOD with fina EOD
Weeks 8-12 Winstrol EOD 100mg

He has already began the cycle and is on the first week.

BTW He only has the first four weeks of gear, and *thinks* this is what his cycle will look like. However it could change since he dosn't know what he will go on yet.

I advised him that this cycle is neither safe nor effective.

Please post your comments.

[BDTR]

The winny is run too long, the fina is run too short and there is no test. Not to mention he's starting without having all his gear, bad newbie mistake.

[goldenear]

Wow, it looks like he doesn't care about his health very much. 12 weeks straight of a 17-AA drug isn't the smartest thing he could do. Perhaps even worse, his lipid profile is going to be shot to hell.

Winny is so toxic on the body that is should be reserved exclusively for contest prep IMO.

[Ex_banana-eater]

Do you think his winny should be shot ED like I said, or EOD like he wants?

[BDTR]

Ed, and not for 12 weeks.

[usualsuspect]

owl! my joints hurt just thinking about that cycle.

And let me guess...your boy's bodyfat is in the upper double digits and he thinks the winny will be the answer to the problem. Not to be a dick, but I would love to hear his reasoning behind his cycle selection. I'm at a lost for words over here...

~US~

[MBaraso]

Typical newbie gym cycle.
Bad choice...

[Warrior]

Winny has NO 17B esterfication to control it's release. It has to be administered ED.

And for all reasons mentioned - this cycle is very poorly designed.

[Ex_banana-eater]

I tried telling him that this cycle wouldn't do him that great, but he said that his dealer says "he is advised by National bodybuilder pros" and that they all created this cycle.
I also told him 12 weeks is too long to run a 17aa, but he said the winny is top quality so he won't hurt the liver. That dosnt make sense.

[Tuggy]

Def. needs some test.

[Carlos_E]

Print the comments out and hand them to him. He can read it himself.