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12-15-2003, 01:48 AM #1
needle question
Does anyone use the same needle to draw from the vial/amp and then inject with it? Or does everyone use one needle to draw from the vial/amp then change it to inject?
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12-15-2003, 02:06 AM #2
I'm sure there are some people who use the same pin to draw and shoot, but it is not a good idea. Needles are too cheap to not switch them. I for one don't want to inject with a dull pin.
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12-15-2003, 02:24 AM #3New Member
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Originally Posted by motoxxxguy
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12-15-2003, 02:35 AM #4Originally Posted by Donovan
Do a search bro this has been covered many times
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12-15-2003, 03:04 AM #5
I never switch. I doubt the needle gets much dulled going true a vial top.
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12-15-2003, 04:30 AM #6
What about drawing from an amp? im always scared the needle will touch the side of the ample and then get infected, am I just being paranoid?
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12-15-2003, 04:43 AM #7
The side is sterile too!
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12-15-2003, 04:47 AM #8
Needles are cheap boosted. It is well worth the pain and scar tissue in the long run if you are going to be a life long injecter of AS and joining the club. That tip on the needle is at a surgical fine point. Tap it once even on the skin and its done.
I recommend you have one draw needle. Thats what I do. Sacrifice one whole syringe and take the needle off. Every time you want to with draw from an amp or vial use this needle and switch back to the new capped needle that is fresh (screw it back on). The needle you are using for the draw needle just swipe it on the outside with an alcohol wipe or swab. After the injection suck up a cap of alcohol in and out a few times clean out the inside of the tunnel of the needle. Recap this draw needle and use for another day.
In my opinion if I per chance even had to pull out my shot case I miss the muscle or hit a vein I change the needle. Doesn't take much to dull that tip instantly.
Let me suggest another good tip for steralization. Alcohol swab or wipe the top of your vial before you draw. IMO
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12-15-2003, 06:02 AM #9Associate Member
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Needles
Originally Posted by boosted m3
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12-15-2003, 06:34 AM #10
never use the same needle.....vial or bottle....
i always touch the bottom of a vial or the sides trying to get everything out, it does blunt the tip a little imo...
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12-15-2003, 02:42 PM #11Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids
-moto
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12-15-2003, 04:59 PM #12Originally Posted by motoxxxguy
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12-15-2003, 07:45 PM #13Junior Member
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You can use the same needle!! Drawing up fluid WILL NOT DULL IT!! If it did, then Paramedics and Doctors would have to switch needles every time they inject Local into a site...they teach us to inject a site with local over 20 times using the same needle!!! My patients seem to not feel a difference...hence, using the same needle is cool...but do what you want
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12-15-2003, 07:57 PM #14Junior Member
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Always change the needle tip...why would you want to ram a dull needle through your muscle...you're only hurting yourself by not switching tips.
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12-15-2003, 08:02 PM #15
I would change the needle...cheap and better off being safe than sorry, no need for an infection that could have been easily avoided...
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12-15-2003, 08:11 PM #16Associate Member
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The first time i tried to inject i didn't change the needle and it felt like i was pushing against a rock, so i swapped the needle and it was like butter. It's so cheap i'd say it's worth the safety and possibly pain reduction to swap needles.
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12-15-2003, 08:22 PM #17
Even after one use its dulled
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12-15-2003, 10:48 PM #18Junior Member
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geez, Looking at that, I don't think I ever wanna inject again!!!
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12-15-2003, 11:09 PM #19Swellin Guest
Ron, I was reading this one...thinking that the pic needed to resurface. You just beat me to it!
Moto is on the money. Buy the combo kit with the big pin already attached. This way you limit switching....touching. Once you are done drawing, then switch to the smaller pin in the other box. I got mine backwards this time, but that is better than jabbig a fish hook in there like those used needles.
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12-16-2003, 12:47 AM #20
thanks ron, im going to use 2 different needles for sure.
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12-16-2003, 09:28 PM #21Originally Posted by RON
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12-18-2003, 03:23 AM #22
ya im sold....new needles are good needles.
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12-23-2003, 01:05 PM #23Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids
This method I proposed is probably one of the worst advice I had given on AR. This method still has a potential for infection and is like a crack addicts way of saving needles. As AAS users we are far above paraphenilia users and not in the same class and should exercise much more professionalism and knowledge. I will never use this method ever again and will not advice others to do it as well.
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12-23-2003, 01:14 PM #24
I use a nice low guage needle to draw out and then switch to the needle for injection. With a lower guage needle the gear will become much easier to draw. You can reuse the same draw needle over and over again, just make sure you wipe with some alcohol before each use.
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12-23-2003, 01:21 PM #25
Same needle. I hope for a bit more pain.!!!! I tend to like it. I've never run into any pain or problems using the same needle..
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03-10-2004, 07:59 PM #26Associate Member
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anyone know where i can get needles that have been used six times?
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03-10-2004, 08:35 PM #27
I'm gonna challenge all of us to use common sense here. First, what ga. needle is the one pictured...like 50 ga.? Second, the tip of the needle is for lack of a better term pokey and straight, not that easy to bend something that is straight and pointy going straight in. follow me here. so assuming the tip bent like that on entry with little or no pressure trying to bend it up, down left or right. Why my friends, would the tip (which is now turned into a frickin meat hook) on it's way out while grabbing and tearing at flesh not straighten itself (at least somewhat) out? Figuratively the metal is less malleable at a cooler temp which would be on the way in. More malleable (being it as at a higher temp) on the way out. The last action of every needle is pull out so why do the needles pictured look the way they do?????????????????
Pull out your magnifying glass and check for yourself. We are talking about surgical steel here give the boys alittle credit.
Just something to think about.
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03-10-2004, 08:40 PM #28
Howdy PJK,
Originally Posted by PJK015
Stengun
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03-10-2004, 09:53 PM #29
Don't make me bring out my microscope!
actually, I've tried looking for it. i can't find
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03-11-2004, 12:31 PM #30Originally Posted by ultranyteg
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03-11-2004, 12:45 PM #31
I personally switch needles every time, I use the needle I injected with the last time to draw the fluid and then I switch to a new needle to inject. same for every injection
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03-11-2004, 01:17 PM #32
I use 22g needles to draw, and 25g, sometimes even 23g needles to shoot. I always change before i shoot.
I belive that the rubber stopper causes the most damage to needle tips. Plus the metal used for disposable needles is not steel, its a cheap alloy. If it were stainless surgical steel the price would be much more than $15 for 100 needles.
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03-11-2004, 01:50 PM #33Originally Posted by STUCKUP
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03-11-2004, 05:54 PM #34Originally Posted by einstein1905
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