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    Question SUS Cycle, yes or no?

    Guys,

    I need some help. I have done a lot of research but now I want some advice. I am about to start a SUS only cycle. I have Clomid and Nolvadex on hand and I believe I could get Privoron if needed. My stats are: 27yrs, 205 lb, 6'3", 12-14% BF. Been lifting for 5 yrs. I do pass through Mexico quite often and can probably get others. I have found deca , but only in 50mg preloads. The sus is in 250 mg preloads. I just don't see 8 shots of deca a week happening thats why I plan a sus only cycle. Plus, the cost is up there too. Now for the questions. Should I taper or do a 500 mg/wk cycle for 8 weeks? When do I take the clomid and/or Nolvadex and how much? Any and all advice will be appreciated. If you know of something else readily available in Mexico that I should consider, please advise as well.

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    I,m not sure that a sust only cycle will give you the results you need.Can,t you get hold of Deca in 100mg in 2ml vials?

    You could use the Deca in 4 injections

    Inj 1 2 * 50mg Deca + 250mg Sust
    Inj 2 2 * 50mg Deca
    Inj 3 2 * 50mg Deca + 250mg Sust
    Inj 4 2 * 50mg Deca

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    I like sus only cycles My first was 250mg for 12 weeks with good results. Second cycle sus only 500mg ..12 weeks again good results..Iam now trying 750mg 12 weeks..But after that i will start to stack with deca ....JMO Take clomid 3-4 weeks after your last shot..300mg day 1..100mg for 10 days and 50mg for 10 days..
    Use the nova only if you get any signs of gyno..
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    I am not as experienced as a lot of people here so maybe someone else can verify this, but it seems to me that a SUST only cycle one would see gains in the short term but a lot of the gain would be lost after the cycle ends. Seems like you'd be able to keep more of your gains if you could add deca to the cycle.

    I took 20mg/day Nolva starting my third week of my cycle. Toward the end of the 3rd week I began to experience early stages of gyno so I upped it to 40mg which took care of the problem.

    Good luck.

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    Deca will kick start the sus as sus will take about 4 weeks to kick in....JMO...

    IGNORE THE DECA POINT IAM BRAIN DEAD.......
    Last edited by bex; 01-09-2002 at 10:19 AM.

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    I thought Deca took around 3-4 weeks to kick in the same as Sust that is why many people use D-bol to kick start the cycle

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    Sorry billy i must be stupid today ..........
    I must be on drugs or somthing....

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    We all have those days LOL I normally have 6 a week and mine have nothing to do with drugs!

    Where in the UK are you from bro?

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    LEICESTER........For my sins...

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    Leicester I have not been there since last year.I had to do some work there for a small Engineering company I can,t even remeber the name of.It could be worse you could live in Birmingham!!

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    Just down the road for me then.....

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    Nope I,m down the A47 about 100 miles from you!!I,m in Norfolk

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    I have got a caravan in norfolk i go down for most of the summer..(EAST RUNTON}

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    Hell small world I go surfing there as well as Cromer I,m about 30miles from Cromer.

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    Billy Boy and Bexsome: Get a room
    About the sus cycle; if you are trying to do an 8 week cycle, terminate sus at week 4 or 5 (just when you are about to feel it, damit) and switch to shorter acting test like prop. Increase the prop as the sus is tapering down itself week 5 or 6, 7 & 8. Then you can start your clomid right afterwards. Also include arimidex week 1-12 (yes, 4 weeks post cycle)
    Stay away from deca if you are prone to d-dick or progesterone sides, it also complicates post cycle recovery

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    Whats up buddy. You will probably be better off stacking the sust with deca . It will give you nice gains. Make sure if you do decide to use the deca you keep a 2:1 ratio of test to deca. This will cancel any libido problems coming from the deca.
    Just my thoughts...
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    Point taken bro

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    see it!

    I,m not sure that a sust only cycle will give you the results you need.Can,t you get hold of Deca in 100mg in 2ml vials?

    You could use the Deca in 4 injections

    Inj 1 2 * 50mg Deca + 250mg Sust
    Inj 2 2 * 50mg Deca
    Inj 3 2 * 50mg Deca + 250mg Sust
    Inj 4 2 * 50mg Deca



    Bump for this post!

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    Why are u only looking for it in preloads?

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    I've only been going to the major pharmacies and this is what they sell over the counter. I've tried asking if they can order other quantities or strengths, but without luck. A 250 preload of sus is only about 10 bucks. Two 50 mg preloads of deca run about 23 bucks.

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    hmmmm

    Its my understanding that you should consider the TTokyo or Brovel Deca Veterinary version (norandren 300) since it would be less oil per injection...U can buy a 10ml vial of the TTokyo for around 70 bucks in mexico, i think. You'll probably need 3 vials for a cycle...Ask around about this product.

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