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    Question Off Steroids For Good--Need Help with PCT

    hey guys please help me....
    i stopped all aas in late sept. i then did a round of hcg in oct and one in november (2500iu every 4 or five days for 2-3 weeks) and i also did clomid...after about 4 months off i decided to go back on and did a shot of prop and eq on dec 21. i got really sick from the shot and have decided to end my use of aas. wat type of pct should i use...ive been using proviron b/c w/o it i have no sex drive and its very hard to cum or even get an erection...should i use hcg again-my balls are still small and have not got back to normal size--do u think i could have desensitized my balls from my prior use of hcg?? im really desperate here...i went to an endo and all he said was that i didnt need any meds that time would make everything go back to normal. someone told me to use clomid 50 ed for six weeks w/nolva and 1000iu hcg mwf for the 1st 3 wks. i only have 2500iu vials of hcg wat should i do i dont want to desensitize my balls...
    thanx for any help you can give me...lifter486

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    You shouldn't use clomid and HCG together....... it most likey hampered your recovery.

    You shouldn't need to run PCT after 1 shot of Prop and EQ...... but you could run Nolva and Clomid to try and get them back.

    I would try
    Clomid 100mg ED and Nolva 20mg ED for 28 days...... If that doesn't work then you need to go back to the endo

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    what he said.

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    if i dont use the hcg and jus use the clomid and nolvadex , will my balls still get back to their normal size??

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    If you testicles have shrunk, then HCG should be your first stage.

    Take 500ius ED for 14 days. This should revert the shrinkage.

    5 days after your last shot, start your PCT. You can use either clomid or Nolvadex for this.

    You can also add Maca and Avena Sativa to increase your libido.

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    i am going to bump this and see if any 1 can really explain to me why this **** happend to this guy lol it sucks bro no flame but i haven't found a thread that really explained can any 1 explain ?????/

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAWNSAVER
    If you testicles have shrunk, then HCG should be your first stage.

    Take 500ius ED for 14 days. This should revert the shrinkage.

    5 days after your last shot, start your PCT. You can use either clomid or Nolvadex for this.

    You can also add Maca and Avena Sativa to increase your libido.
    He's this way from being off for 4 months and only one shot of Prop and EQ.

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    i only have 2500iu vials of hcg ...how do i measure out 1000iu?

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