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    Question test is test no matter what right?

    Testosterone is testosterone, no matter what ester is bound too right?

    I mean, prop isn’t a better “cutter” than cypionate right? I didn't think it was, but I'm questioning myslef.



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    prop is used in cutting cycles cause it keeps bloating to a minimum, but overall, test is test is test

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    Once the ester is removed, yes, test is test. People get different results from different esters, mainly in regards to varying levels of water retention due to the various timing of the ester being removed and making the test active.

    The different esters also have different weights, which directly affects how much actual test you are getting. I don't know the exact numbers (I'll look for them), but prop, being a much shorter, and also smaller, ester than enanthate , allows more mg's of pure test per volume. Make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoxxxguy
    Once the ester is removed, yes, test is test. People get different results from different esters, mainly in regards to varying levels of water retention due to the various timing of the ester being removed and making the test active.

    The different esters also have different weights, which directly affects how much actual test you are getting. I don't know the exact numbers (I'll look for them), but prop, being a much shorter, and also smaller, ester than enanthate , allows more mg's of pure test per volume. Make sense?

    -moto
    yup, thanks guys

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    The following is the actual amount of testosterone that is in each 100mg dose of the drug:

    Testosterone Cypionate : 70mg
    Testosterone Decanoate: 65mg
    Testosterone Enantate: 72mg
    Testosterone Isocaproate: 75mg
    Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 69mg
    Testosterone Propionate : 84mg
    Testosterone Suspension : 100mg
    Testosterone Undecanoate: 63mg

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    Thank you Zodiac,

    I’m going to work that info into my thread on gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zodiac66
    The following is the actual amount of testosterone that is in each 100mg dose of the drug:

    Testosterone Cypionate : 70mg
    Testosterone Decanoate: 65mg
    Testosterone Enantate: 72mg
    Testosterone Isocaproate: 75mg
    Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 69mg
    Testosterone Propionate : 84mg
    Testosterone Suspension : 100mg
    Testosterone Undecanoate: 63mg


    The lighter the ester the more test that is recepted.

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    This is also the reason why tren acetate will cause less water retention then the new tren enanthate !

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    Quote Originally Posted by skii96
    This is also the reason why tren acetate will cause less water retention then the new tren enanthate!

    Right, so a slightly better choice for bulking. I'm glad I know why now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skii96
    This is also the reason why tren acetate will cause less water retention then the new tren enanthate!
    Do you get any water retention from tren in the first place? Without a conversion to estrogen, you should see very little, no matter what the ester.

    -moto

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoxxxguy
    Do you get any water retention from tren in the first place? Without a conversion to estrogen, you should see very little, no matter what the ester.

    -moto
    I feel like water retention is caused by the ester itself changing the molality of your fat cells, causing water to rush in to make it isotonic. The strength of this reaction is dependant on the amount of estrogen in your system. So it's nost just esters, but also estrogen. I might be wrong though.

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    Godd info Zodiac, Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoxxxguy
    Do you get any water retention from tren in the first place? Without a conversion to estrogen, you should see very little, no matter what the ester.

    -moto
    Well not much but enough for me to stop it close to 2 wks out from a show to shed off the water i did hold with it. So if you arent competing then it probably doesnt matter.

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