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    First Time User - Need Advice Please!!!

    I have 250 mg/mL total of 2500 mg/mL of test et. and 12 cc of test prop. (derived from synovex) and 50 tablets of clen . .02. I am 25 years old, 165 lbs, 5'10"...been training for 3 years. Can you tell me the best way to cycle this? Which test should I take first?

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    first of all u dont have near enough gear...

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    you can either run 250mg for 10 weeks or buy more and do 500. You don't have enough prop either

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    you probably dont absolutley need 500 mg enant for a first time cycle, I am assuming this is your first? I know bro's who did 250 for 8-10 wks and put on some good size. you, for sure, dont have enough prop thought...12 cc's at what strength?

    The clen is for cutting primarily...you trying to bulk?

    help the brothers out here man....more info...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailboss
    you probably dont absolutley need 500 mg enant for a first time cycle, I am assuming this is your first? I know bro's who did 250 for 8-10 wks and put on some good size. you, for sure, dont have enough prop thought...12 cc's at what strength?

    The clen is for cutting primarily...you trying to bulk?

    help the brothers out here man....more info...
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    AS the other have stated you don't have enough to make a cycle.

    I would never suggest to run no less than 400mg of test a week for a first cycle. If you get more gear you can run a cycle like this:

    1 - 10 Enan 500mg
    10 - 12 Prop 75mg ED
    1 - 12 Nolva 10mg ED
    1 - 12 L-dex .25mg ED

    Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva /.25mg L-dex
    Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva /.25mg L-dex
    Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva /.25mg L-dex

    You will need:
    5000mg of Enan
    1575mg of Prop
    1260mg of Nolva - Get more though in case of signs of gyno show up.
    30mg of L-dex

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    Word! Good first cycle there

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    i have about 100mg/ml 12cc. i don't want to be real big, just fit looking.maybe about 20lbs. more muscle, and very low bodyfat.i can just take test to get big right?if so can i take the both test prop and e. at the same time, or take the prop. till i run out then take the e. then clen to cut up?

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    20lbs is a good gain in size....you will need to eat a lot...and you do not have enough gear to make a 20lb gain...yes you can take enan and prop at the same time...i'd do the cycle Mudmann suggested...other than that don't waste your time....

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    also, do i need a pharma anti estrogen, or is there any over the counter supplement to help me keep my gains? i tend to think that all supplements are fake.also i think my natural test production is already dead, because i took durateston when i was like 16 from some buttwad at the gym when i was younger, and he gave me a 200mg injection one week and then primobolan the next. then he left me hangin.would this have shut down my natural test production?

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    can i take everything mudman suggested, but at half the dose? will this do anything?what should i do whith the clen ?when should i take it to cut up if i go with mudmans cycle?

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    also what is l-dex?

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    can i take proviron in substitute for anything in mudmans cycle? sorry for so many questions at once i'm annoying to myself too!
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