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    sauceman is offline Junior Member
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    almost time for first cycle...

    alright i have been doin my research and readin thread after thread and i have come up with a plan, my first thread was deca and dbol stack... well i have learned since then so i wont be that ignorant this time.i dont have any cycle experience besides dbol for 6 weeks, and i hate admitting that, and ive used clen and eca, thats about it. i am currently 21 years old and have been liftin hard since i was 14, i am 5'11 and 230 pounds with a higher bf . if i had to guess i would say it is around lower 20's. yeah i know its a little high and i plan on droppin a considerable amount of weight with some eca and clen before i start my cycle...i have read that if you have a higher bodyfat the estrogen can hide in the fat cells and sneak up on you weeks to months after a cycle, is this true??? well let me know what you guys think...


    weeks 1-4 30mg DBOL ed
    weeks 1-8 300mg DECA week ( 150 mg sunday 150 mg thursday)
    weeks 1-10 400mg TEST CYP week ( 200 mg sunday 200 mg thursday)
    20mg nolva from week 1 through pct
    pct 3 weeks after last shot 300/100/50
    vitamin B6 - 200mg ed

    i also have access to liquidex - i know it prevents aromatization and will control the bloat but do i need nolva and Ldex throughout or will i be ok with just the liquidex during the cycle, and keep nolva on hand and for pct?

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    Run the deca a week longer.

    Just make sure your fat is sitting around 15% before you start

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    Bro why so many drugs? Do a test only cycle for you first 1. You have virgin receptors so you don't need more then 500mg with lots of food to grow.

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    Good point, atleast cut it down to 2.

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    i thought maybe i could take advantage of my virgin receptors...guess not, what shoud i cut? the deca or dbol ?

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    cut the dbol ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sauceman
    i thought maybe i could take advantage of my virgin receptors...guess not, what shoud i cut? the deca or dbol?
    cut them both and run your test

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    sauceman is offline Junior Member
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    sounds good, ill try the test only... but i only have 400mg a week for 10 weeks... is that enough to see nice gains with only the test???

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