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Thread: IGF-1 vs HGH
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03-03-2004, 11:40 AM #1
IGF-1 vs HGH
I know a guy at my gym ... His size was average ... he started 4iu of gh for the past 4 months... He basicly looks like he lost like 5% bf and gained 20lbs of muscle...
My question is this, Would IGF-1 do the same Job as GH??? i told myself ill stay away from IGF1 / gh but ****.. when u see the gains people are making on thsese stuff makes u think again...
Any one ran both gh and igf on seperate cycles who can tell me if they are any where close to each other? i hear igf 1 suppose to be stronger but gh u can go on for 6months...
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03-03-2004, 11:52 AM #2
Igf is a quicker alternitive to hgh, hgh has its place but igf is deffinitely worth the $$
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03-03-2004, 11:55 AM #3Originally Posted by damonic
IGF-1 should be shot IM. GH will give you more global and diverse benefits if shot subQ. Using them together isn't out of the question either.
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03-03-2004, 12:03 PM #4
einstein you seem to know alot about IGF, would you consider it to be very safe? What measuers can be taken to insure safty? Have you used it? I really like the idea of localized growth....
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03-03-2004, 12:18 PM #5Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
Post w/o is the way to go, bilaterally into the muscles worked.....IMO.
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03-03-2004, 12:37 PM #6
Wow thanks for the info, and if you care to share more about it do so. where do you learn this info as I would like to read about it? Have you used it before?
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03-03-2004, 12:48 PM #7Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
Medline/pubmed searches will turn up a lot of publications. I'm at medschool, so I have access to pretty much every journal full text, whereas you won't through a private ISP. If there is a med school near you, go to their library. You'll find tons of endocrinology texts and many books specifically on GH or IGF-1. If it's a decent med school, it should have good current books. Many of these will cite many relevant clinical studies. Abstracts can be informative, but you have to take them with a grain of salt. The conclusions in an abstract are that of the author and not necessarily the conclusions another scientist would come to looking at the same data. Sciencedirect.com is another great search site for journal articles.
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03-03-2004, 09:55 PM #8
Interesting
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03-03-2004, 10:22 PM #9
Not to hijack this thread, but i was just curious on igf dosage and how long a person could run it. Personally i have never done any sort of cycle yet, but have been planning for several years, would i be able to use igf or should i wait and do a test cycle first and see what happens....
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03-03-2004, 10:28 PM #10
I think it would be 25mcgs in each muscle. And I think people only run it around 4 weeks. I am really new to the IGF world, but this is off the top of my head. So correcte me if I am wrong. And if you have never done a cycle, id wait a long ass time before you try IGF
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03-03-2004, 10:33 PM #11Associate Member
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Sorry, but I have heard about IGF-1, but it is not in my Anabolics 2002 book or in the profiles here on AR. What exactly is IGF-1 and what does it do (as far as mass and strength gains), how much do you take/for how long, and what are approx. costs.
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03-03-2004, 11:51 PM #12Originally Posted by Zues
IGF-1 is a peptide hormone that is one of the most important factors in muscle growth. I'm not going to post all of its roles, as they are countless, but you can find tons of background info even doing a simple google search. Once you read some of the things it does/can do, you can read some of the in depth posts on how BBers use it. 25-30 day cycles are the norm. You should be able to get 1mg for around $200.
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03-03-2004, 11:54 PM #13
Doesnt it cause abdominal cancer if you use to much?
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03-03-2004, 11:59 PM #14Originally Posted by damonic
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03-04-2004, 11:48 AM #15Originally Posted by einstein1905
Thanks for the quick reply. So when cycling IGF-1 you should do 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off?
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03-04-2004, 11:51 AM #16Originally Posted by damonic
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03-04-2004, 11:54 AM #17
Thanks
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03-04-2004, 03:44 PM #18Junior Member
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Sorry about the jacking, but what would you say works the best IGF-1 or HGH??
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03-04-2004, 03:46 PM #19Originally Posted by incredible bulk
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03-04-2004, 07:15 PM #20Originally Posted by einstein1905
It has to be getting into my system, because my hunger on it has gone up while using it
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03-04-2004, 07:17 PM #21
JB how much are you taking? Are you worried about sides???
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03-04-2004, 07:43 PM #22Originally Posted by JohnnyB
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03-04-2004, 08:00 PM #23Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by Zues
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03-06-2004, 11:03 AM #24Originally Posted by Ntpadude
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03-08-2004, 03:02 PM #25Junior Member
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hgh or igf-1
Honestly I need to cut a bit of fat. I want to remain somewhat strong.
I am not as interested in bodybuilding as I am powerlifting, but I dont want to be one of these blubber powerlifters either. I want a look like big Big Bill Kazmier (I think that is how you spell his name.I dont mind a bit of a gut.
5'9" 290lbs
just...just under 20" arms
53" chest I always forget my legs sorry
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03-10-2004, 04:00 PM #26Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
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03-10-2004, 09:32 PM #27
So you shoot just in your quads.... and your arms are growing? So I thought it was site specific? That really scares me, because it might cause your organs, or bones to grow and thats no good.... is my thinking correct on this? Also are you just using IFG?
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03-10-2004, 09:54 PM #28Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
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03-10-2004, 09:57 PM #29
So do you feel that its safe to run? Is there an age recomendation with this stuff? I am considering it once I am older... I want to use it for lagging body parts... ie calves.
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03-10-2004, 10:01 PM #30Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
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03-10-2004, 10:07 PM #31
Is there anyway you could go to a health care pro and watch you through the whole duration of IGF and look for sides? Or is it too hard to look for them?
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03-10-2004, 10:16 PM #32Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
Last edited by einstein1905; 03-10-2004 at 10:48 PM.
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03-10-2004, 10:25 PM #33
very true, thanks for the info bro!!! you have helped out a lot! More info we have on this the better...
Last edited by Mr. Sparkle; 03-10-2004 at 10:28 PM.
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03-19-2004, 06:04 PM #34Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
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