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04-04-2004, 04:00 PM #1New Member
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R3 IGF-1 Administration-workout days only or?
I plan on running my IGF on Monday (20mcg/am and 20mcg/post-workout) but and have one last question before I start and that would be about administration-how should IGF be administrated during non-workout days? The same as if I was working out w/am-pm shot? Or should I follow a 5 days on 2 days off as I currenty workout M-F (5 days)....
In other words should IGF only be used on workout days?
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04-04-2004, 06:10 PM #2Member
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Originally Posted by T-Biggs
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04-04-2004, 08:36 PM #3New Member
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Ok I gotcha on the 7 days a week makes sense (I run my GH the dame way), but the consciences on the boards seems to be 2x injections because of the half life of R3 Long IGF-1, which seems be be around 12 hours so split injections would make sense.......
However some guys seem to have done injections 2x a day (am/post-workout) and others have done just 1x a day (post-workout) and both parties seem to have recevied good results, but I have yet to find anyone would has done both and compared the two results
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04-04-2004, 09:16 PM #4Member
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Originally Posted by T-Biggs
i have heard 16-20 for the half-life, but could be wrong though. i will be starting my igf-1lr3 cycle soon and will be opting for the one/day injection post w/o. you are right about not being able to find anyone who compared the two methods. that will come with time. this is all still too new.
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04-04-2004, 11:33 PM #5New Member
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Originally Posted by flexshack
All this reminds me of the questions that where circulating (as more guys starting doing GH) in reguards to the timing of GH shots in coralation with ones natural GH production Ex: am shots vs afternoon shots vs bedtime shots etc....
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04-05-2004, 12:07 AM #6Originally Posted by T-Biggs
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04-05-2004, 12:18 AM #7Member
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Originally Posted by einstein1905
are you saying that igf-1lr3 can bind to igfbp3 and become useless? if so, then does the body produce more and more of these binding proteins to form a homeostasis? and is this why it seems to stop working after 6 weeks or so?
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04-05-2004, 12:23 AM #8Originally Posted by flexshack
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04-05-2004, 12:32 AM #9Member
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Originally Posted by einstein1905
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04-05-2004, 12:35 AM #10Originally Posted by flexshack
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04-05-2004, 12:41 AM #11Member
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Originally Posted by einstein1905
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04-05-2004, 12:51 AM #12Originally Posted by flexshack
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04-05-2004, 06:34 AM #13Member
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Originally Posted by einstein1905Last edited by flexshack; 04-05-2004 at 06:40 AM.
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04-05-2004, 08:58 AM #14Originally Posted by flexshack
It's all, more or less, stochastic.
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04-05-2004, 09:57 AM #15Member
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Originally Posted by einstein1905
i appreciate this explanation, thank you.
it is interesting to me that insulin can preserve igfbp3, but lessen shbg, from what i have heard.
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04-05-2004, 10:05 AM #16Originally Posted by flexshack
Pasquali R, et al. Insulin regulates testosterone and sex hormone-binding globulin concentrations in adult normal weight and obese men. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1995 Feb;80(2):654-658.
Strain G, et al. The relationship between serum levels of insulin and sex hormone-binding globulin in men: the effect of weight loss. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1994 Oct;79(4):1173-1176.
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04-05-2004, 10:07 AM #17Member
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Originally Posted by einstein1905
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