First Cycle Questions, Deca or Testoviron?

**HummerRecovery** · 10-22-2005, 10:33 AM

I'm getting ready for my first set. I can either get 15Amps/1cc x 250mg of Testoviron Depot Schering or Deca Durabolin Organon 15Amps/1ml x 100mg. Also 500 x 5mg DBOL tabs, Nolvadex Tamoxifen Citrate 20mg/Tab, and 2x 5000IU HCG . Does this seem ok for a first set? I've been researching and seeing too much info on deca affecting test levels so that kind of freaked me out. Thanks for all your help wanted an expert opinion.

**eGGz** · 10-22-2005, 10:45 AM

Get at least 24 amps of test.

1-12 test @ 500mg EW (inject 250mg twice weekly)

Your proposed cycle sounds like one of those over priced package deals from an online steroid web site. Be careful, they are often rip offs.

**HummerRecovery** · 10-22-2005, 10:52 AM

With the 15 amps Its about $360. Is that too high? I don't really trust anyone in my small town to do it. They probably don't know what they are doing and the only prices i've heard are $100 a set. What that means? No clue. 24 amps will probably raise the price considerably. I'm going for mass mostly but will I really need the DBOL ? I've taken it for a week before to test the side effects and there wasn't really any. What does the 1-12 mean by test. Thanks

**Booz** · 10-22-2005, 10:58 AM

its not a good idea to use deca alone mate let alone for a 1st cycle,the best cycle you could do would be test for 10-12 weeks,you would need to run 500mg weekly imo,that price is quite steep mate i would find another source!

**eGGz** · 10-22-2005, 11:01 AM

Your individual goals will determine what cycles you eventually end up doing, These bulking cycles are just for example:

First cycle:
Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500mg EW

Second cycle:
Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 30mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test E or C @ 500mg EW

Third cycle:
Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 30mg ED
Weeks 1-14 Test E or C @ 500mg EW
Weeks 1-12 Deca @ 400mg EW

**HummerRecovery** · 10-22-2005, 11:06 AM

How long of a break between those cycles and what about PCT? Would 30 20mg tabs of novaldex be enough? Is that with 500mg of Test E per week on those cycles?

*EDITED* Sorry

**Booz** · 10-22-2005, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by HummerRecovery

How long of a break between those cycles and what about PCT? Would 30 20mg tabs of novaldex be enough? Is that with 500mg of Test E per week on those cycles?

Whats a fair price for Test E or Deca. This is the only place I have found

you cant really talk prices on here mate its frowned upon by the hierachy.

**eGGz** · 10-22-2005, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by HummerRecovery

How long of a break between those cycles and what about PCT? Would 30 20mg tabs of novaldex be enough? Is that with 500mg of Test E per week on those cycles?

Whats a fair price for Test E or Deca. This is the only place I have found

(Time off cycle) = (Time on cycle + PCT)

PCT questions answered here:
http://forums.anabolicreview.com/showthread.php?t=94626

500mg EW Test enanthate or cypoinate.

EW = every week

**HummerRecovery** · 10-22-2005, 11:51 AM

Would Sustanon 250 be any better? I read that it is a combination of 4 kinds of test. I haven't heard much on it would it be better than Test depot? What would you recommend for the first cycle in terms of mg per week? Thanks

**eGGz** · 10-22-2005, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by HummerRecovery

Would Sustanon 250 be any better? I read that it is a combination of 4 kinds of test. I haven't heard much on it would it be better than Test depot? What would you recommend for the first cycle in terms of mg per week? Thanks

Some like sust. I personally feel that the Propinate @ 30mg/ml is a waste and just makes it painful.

1-12 Test E or C @ 500mg EW