1st Cycle Ever

[Generali]

Hello everyone, is my first post here, im Portuguese, 23years 160LB and this is my situation.

Iam ATM doing my first cycle ever, it stand in a

10weeks Testex Cyp at 500mg a week

30mg anabol daily in the first 4 weeks


during the cycle ive been told to take 10mg nolva to prevent gyno
and 25mg proviron also daily.

i was reading some articules over testex and in some they say that some testicular shrinkage can appear.... this is a lower dose of Test, but in order to prevent any side effects, what can i take to prevent it...

and id like to know what exacly will i take in PCT. Nolva and clomid?

in this cycle is HCG need it?

Thks everyone.

[GimmeAHellYeah]

Have you ever worked out before? At 160lbs, sounds like you should put a hold on the cycle. I'm sure you'll hear all about your diet and you need to gain naturally first, but I'm going to answer your questions anyway. You'll probally end up doing the cycle anyways, might as well know what your doing.

The cycle sounds ok. The way to combat ball shrinkage is with HCG . Which you can take during the cycle or during PCT. I personally never tryed during the cycle. Do a search of Anthony Roberts PCT and thats the way I run HCG.

You'll see theres alot of different combos for PCT, its all trial and error per person. Goodluck.

[Big]

How tall are you? If you are 5'4" and 160lbs advice would be very different that if you were 6'2" and 160lbs, etc. Give us all the info we need to help you and you will get more responses.

[AandF6969]

You need to eat.

[Generali]

Hum u have some reason in what u say

iam 23 years, 178cm and i work wout over 3 years. i start going to the gym with around 60kg and i got this year to 78kg and ATM i just cant put on weight, so i look to AS as a bridge to jump this barreer.
I have a good diet that i follow every single day, i train well, i do my suplementacion ( whey, otmeal, casein, creatine, vitargo, VIT B, C , E fish oils ) and this is the reasons why i pick AS.

[auslifta]

how much are you eating?

[AandF6969]

I'd recommend posting your diet up in the diet forum for critique... just because you have a "good diet" doesn't mean its suited towards your goals. Even if you do steroids , with an insufficient diet your results are going to be minimal at best.

[Big]

Hum u have some reason in what u say

AandF always has a reason for what he says, and from what I've seen he's always right.

[Generali]

i have the diet done, kind a hard translate it to english but i´ll do that today and then post it her efor your comments... this forum is 100000000 times filled with more information than everyother else i visit... realy awesome stuff.

[ChuckLee]

i have the diet done, kind a hard translate it to english but i´ll do that today and then post it her efor your comments... this forum is 100000000 times filled with more information than everyother else i visit... realy awesome stuff.

For your traslations I'd suggest you to ask for some help to hugovsilva...lol

[PEWN]

I'd recommend posting your diet up in the diet forum for critique... just because you have a "good diet" doesn't mean its suited towards your goals. Even if you do steroids, with an insufficient diet your results are going to be minimal at best.

steroids would be a waste if diet is not correct ... i agree with the above statement ..... you need to post a diet and get it in check before venturing down the liquid road. ...

[Generali]

Well m8´s here is it. sorry if some names arent corect.

07:30 – 200ml water + 25g Protein + 25g Vitargo 23p/23Hc

08:00 – 5 egg whites + 150g oatmeal + 2 slices of turkey ham 30p/50/Hc
1 Banana
1 Multi Vita

10:30 – 1 can of tuna / 200g grilled chiken / 100g White cheese /
Or a protein shake 30p/10HC

13:00 – 200g tuna grilled + 4 sweet patatos + salad
200g grilled chiken with spaghetti + salad or rice
1 pill Fish Oil


16:00 - Same as 10:30

18:00 - Pre Work out – As I had some carbs at 16:00 here I just take a protein shake with some oatmeal + 5gr BCAAA + 5gr Gluta

20:00 - Cellmass

20:15 – 200ml water + 50g Vitargo + 40 Whey Protein ON + 5 gr BCAA + 5gr Gluta
1 Complex B
1 Vi E 400iu

21:30 – Diner. Same As Lunch
1 fish oil
1 multi

23:00 – 100g white Cheese + 30g Casain + 200ml Skim milk


This is arround 230g protein / 350 carbs / +/- 3500Kcal

[AandF6969]

How much fat every day?

[Generali]

i realy dont know :|

[AandF6969]

I doubt its enough to make your 3500 calories/day estimate.... you may want to retotal that.

[Generali]

hum ill do that but id like to see more opinions about this

[madmustang]

i could of had alot better results on my cycle if i was eating more. im 5'9 at 190 and 4500 cal. a day wasnt enough for my goal. eat eat eat and eat.

[Generali]

iam starting the cycle this friday.

i was wondering if id go more than 8 weeks is testex? like 10 or 12...

is there any problem is i mix other type of test in this extra weeks, like sustenon or testoviron depot?