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    First Cycle Advice

    Hey guys, this is going to be my first cycle and this is what i have planned.
    Testosterone Enanthate for 12 weeks at 400 mgs per week and at the same time Dianabol for 4 weeks at 20 mgs per day. As I said before this will be my first cycle and I want to know if I should have any other drugs on hand like Nolvadex or anything that will prevent gyno. Also I was wondering what would be an effective PCT. I'm 6'3, 200 lbs and have been training for a solid three years. Solid diet and workout regime. Thanks guys.

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    Yes you will need PCT drugs, go and take a look in the PCT section of the site and read the stickies, there is a ton of info in those threads and possible PCT's you can try. What is your age?

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    yes, get all of your pct gear lined up before you start your cycle. You might be extremely gyno prone, who knows. id have nolvadex , clomid, and an ai. And id have enough of all of them that if i needed it during cycle, i'd still have enough to do a HUGE pct. but thats just me. Im not gyno prone from test, but i wouldnt have evben thought about cycleing with a ton of anti gyno gear. I bought it all, i figured it couldt hurt. I only used some, but i have some for next cycle.
    I did blow up with water weight in the 3rd or so week of my cycle and adex just wasnt cutting it so i used letro and it was gone quickly.

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    Sounds like some solid advice above. Good luck!

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    def make sure u have pct stuff handy,only thing id say is gains from dbol will be minimal at 20mg/ed, 30-40 would be better imo

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    thanks. I will check that out. What is an "ai"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rt1299
    thanks. I will check that out. What is an "ai"?
    you should do a little more reading on pct. a good pct along with diet will save your gains and you wont feel like crap when your done. AI- aromatise inhibitor, ie: arimidex , proviron , ect. I also agree with the above I never take less than 40mg dbol ed even my first run.

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    thanks. Where online can I buy this stuff? And is there an other cycle that will give me bigger results? However I don't want something like Anadrol where the side-effects would be really intense. Thanks.
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    Assuming you have done your research and you are completely ready, I would double the dbol amount. I love me some dbols! If your 200 already, you could most likely be completely safe going up to 500 on the test. PCT PCT PCT!

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    Oh, and good luck bro!

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    Oh and titan, is that the 6 hundo? got me a honda too. Love it! Sorry to hijack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rt1299
    thanks. Where online can I buy this stuff? And is there an other cycle that will give me bigger results? However I don't want something like Anadrol where the side-effects would be really intense. Thanks.
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    asking for sources is kinda frowned upon round here bro im sure plenty of ppl will tell u very shortly lol,stick around ul find something im sure

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    I agree with Neverenuff21!
    Like they say:go big or go home!
    You can do 500mg of test a week and double your d-bol dosage from 20-40mg per day,I did the same on my first cycle and gained +- 20pounds

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    all good info here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afgas
    I agree with Neverenuff21!
    Like they say:go big or go home!
    You can do 500mg of test a week and double your d-bol dosage from 20-40mg per day,I did the same on my first cycle and gained +- 20pounds
    Hell yeah! I like to mix dbols in with my wheeties! Somebody say, "breakfast of champions?"

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    ok thanks guys and I would like to know where I would buy this stuff thanks
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    You'll find it. Dont ask for it. We dont do that here. Stick around and put in your due dilligence.

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    I'm thinking of doing a cycle once I gain atleast 10 more pounds..

    first cyle as well..

    I have 15 shots of test-e of 200mg/ml that I got for free..

    what is the best way to take it in your opinions? 1cc twice a week, or 1.5 cc a week..

    do you think this cycle will be too short? and yes I am planning to stack with dbol as well..can i mix two different test-e's?

    or anyway to maximize on a shorter cycle?
    ...5'8, 165lbs, 10% bf

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    hi guys this may stop incredibly stupid however I can't figure out the dosing on these vials..ok it says
    Description: 1 bottle contains 10ml x 250mg/ml Testosterone Enanthate

    so how many mg doest he bottle have in all? how many bottles do i need if i need 4,800 mgs? thanks alot

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    hi guys this may stop incredibly stupid however I can't figure out the dosing on these vials..ok it says
    Description: 1 bottle contains 10ml x 250mg/ml Testosterone Enanthate

    so how many mg doest he bottle have in all? how many bottles do i need if i need 4,800 mgs? thanks alot

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    at 6'3" 200 lbs you don't need juice, you need FOOD

    I'd recommend posting your diet up in the diet forum for critique..

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    if its 250mg/1ml then you just multiply 250 by 10. every one ml has 250mg....and i always under bid my bottles....if its a 10ml bottle i treat it as it has 9ml.....that way if there is some left over at the end of the bottle perhaps... i find alot of bottles sometimes are a little short of 10ml..

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    first cycle

    Hi, I have just purchased some Test E the packaging states its only 75mg per ml that seems very low to me, does it seem normal??

    at 500mg per week I would need 6.6ml per week it just seems odd??? so I dont know if it would be better to take it all once a week or split it into 2 per week.

    p.s. sorry for Hijacking just seemed Like it was in the same kind of area for my post

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    yes to the pct. And I think test only would be plenty for a first timer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew78 View Post
    Hi, I have just purchased some Test E the packaging states its only 75mg per ml that seems very low to me, does it seem normal??

    at 500mg per week I would need 6.6ml per week it just seems odd??? so I dont know if it would be better to take it all once a week or split it into 2 per week.

    p.s. sorry for Hijacking just seemed Like it was in the same kind of area for my post
    it prolly vet grade lol,and yeh split into 2 doses

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    Quote Originally Posted by rt1299 View Post
    hi guys this may stop incredibly stupid however I can't figure out the dosing on these vials..ok it says
    Description: 1 bottle contains 10ml x 250mg/ml Testosterone Enanthate

    so how many mg doest he bottle have in all? how many bottles do i need if i need 4,800 mgs? thanks alot
    2500mg in a vial,ud need 2 of those

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    Yeh knowing my luck it prob is Vet grade, how do I know for sure and if it is Vet grade what dramas will this potentially cause????

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew78 View Post
    Yeh knowing my luck it prob is Vet grade, how do I know for sure and if it is Vet grade what dramas will this potentially cause????
    no problems with vet grade other than the low mg/ml,u will know cos it will clearly state on the label and prolly have a pic of a sheep or some other farm animal,vet grade is fine its the next best thing to pharm grade,ugl and home brew r the bottom of the pile

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    Ok. thanks yeh it looks like it is, well that explains the fact of the low dose of mg per ml, thanks.

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