first cycle

**rwest09** · 06-22-2008, 01:38 PM

i am fixing to start my first cycle and i have been doing extensive reseach about different subtances and stacks. i am 5' 11" 215, im not extremly fat but i would like to lose most extra weight. the stack i am focused on is winstrol and sustanon . i was wondering if this was a good stack for fat loss and leaning...suggestions and advice welcome thanks

**Big** · 06-22-2008, 02:03 PM

Welcome
age?
body fat%?

**rwest09** · 06-22-2008, 02:10 PM

im 19...idk my pbf....sorry

**boDAWG** · 06-22-2008, 02:16 PM

dont dooooooooo it

**rwest09** · 06-22-2008, 02:21 PM

y not?

**Big** · 06-22-2008, 02:24 PM

You're too young for one, but we really can't advise beyond that without knowing your bf%.

**boDAWG** · 06-22-2008, 02:24 PM

lets see what did u have for breakfast today?

and what all have u eaten so far today?

how many years have u been working out before?

is suspension a water or oil based steroid ?

why are you choosing test sus?

why are you going with winny?

**rwest09** · 06-22-2008, 02:50 PM

i havent eatin at all today...i used to work out in high school..prolly not in the last year or so...i heard winny was a very good cutter...a friend refered sus as an antagonist to the winny...

**rwest09** · 06-22-2008, 02:51 PM

is there an easy way to determine my pbf?

**boDAWG** · 06-22-2008, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by rwest09

i havent eatin at all today...i used to work out in high school..prolly not in the last year or so...i heard winny was a very good cutter...a friend refered sus as an antagonist to the winny...

im sorry man but ur gonna catch some flames on here if you blurp dome sh*t without knowing anything about it

reasons you shouldnt do AAS

1) your diet sucks
2) you dont work out
3) you havent researched ANYTHING
4) youre going off of what your friend said who prolly heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend
5) you're still young, your test level isnt low
6) you're not dedicated
7) you think AAS are miracle drugs

the list goes on and on and on and on

**boDAWG** · 06-22-2008, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by rwest09

is there an easy way to determine my pbf?

yeah post some pics in the pic forum, or go to a gym and ask a trainer to take ur BF% with calipers

**Mind** · 06-22-2008, 03:21 PM

or use this:

http://healthcentral.com/cholesterol...-2774-143.html

it gives you what your BF ALMOST is.

**boDAWG** · 06-22-2008, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Mind

or use this:

http://healthcentral.com/cholesterol...-2774-143.html

it gives you what your BF ALMOST is.

what if one person has more muscle than the other?

i still think the calipers are the shizznit

regardless he aint ready for a cycle

**Darksyde** · 06-22-2008, 04:33 PM

work on your discipline to reach your goals, stop looking for the easy road. your 19 for chrissakes.

what is up with kids these days? no one wants to put their time in.