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    I need help with my first cycle!!

    Well let me tell you a little about myself.
    I have never taken steroids
    I am 22
    I weigh 251lbs
    My height is 6'1
    I have been lifting seriously for 4 years
    I took a 3 month break and just got back to the gym 2 weeks ago
    I run about 1 mile 4 times a week
    I was a powerlifter at 18% BF w/ lifts bench-350 squat-500 dead-550
    I stopped powerlifting a year ago and started just working out.

    So I ran into a buddy of mine and bought a 10 mL vial of test cyp at 250 per mL.

    I want to do a cycle because no matter how hard I lift I just cant get cut. I have done a lot of reading and am overwhelmed by all of the information. Should I use just this vial at 250 mL a week since its my first time or is 250 per week not enough to do anything.

    If it is, should I be taking any anti estrogens during the cycle or only after?

    If I use Finasteride for my hair will it effect my hormones in a bad way?

    If I can get a hold of some tren , should I combine it with the test cyp for a muscle building/cutting cycle (if that exists). Should I buy another test cyp so I can do 500 mL a week? What do I need to take to safely use this cycle without f-ing my body up?

    If I do only test will I be able to lose fat with the new muscle I gain (and the calories they burn), or will I really have a hard time losing the bulky look.

    Most importantly can the products online be trusted? Can I get winny online? Do you recommend it?

    Can I go to a doctor and threaten to take steroids I get off the street and get the real stuff safely?

    Sorry for the amount of questions. I have done a lot of reading and it seems like there are too many conflicting recommendations to continue without asking personalized questions. I sincerely appreciate your feedback. THANKS!!!

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    Honestly, you need to keep researching. You would know that if you did a cycle at your current stats its not the best idea. Your body fat is too high and that excuse,"no matter how hard I lift I just cant get cut." Have you looked at your diet? Steroids don't get you cut, it's all diet, and cardio, have you ever done any? Please post up a copy of your diet and with some tweaking you can get yourself on the right course and eventually be ready to cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by castiron View Post
    Well let me tell you a little about myself.
    I have never taken steroids
    I am 22
    I weigh 251lbs
    My height is 6'1
    I have been lifting seriously for 4 years
    I took a 3 month break and just got back to the gym 2 weeks ago
    I run about 1 mile 4 times a week
    I was a powerlifter at 18% BF w/ lifts bench-350 squat-500 dead-550
    I stopped powerlifting a year ago and started just working out.

    So I ran into a buddy of mine and bought a 10 mL vial of test cyp at 250 per mL.

    I want to do a cycle because no matter how hard I lift I just cant get cut. I have done a lot of reading and am overwhelmed by all of the information. Should I use just this vial at 250 mL a week since its my first time or is 250 per week not enough to do anything.

    If it is, should I be taking any anti estrogens during the cycle or only after?

    If I use Finasteride for my hair will it effect my hormones in a bad way?

    If I can get a hold of some tren , should I combine it with the test cyp for a muscle building/cutting cycle (if that exists). Should I buy another test cyp so I can do 500 mL a week? What do I need to take to safely use this cycle without f-ing my body up?

    If I do only test will I be able to lose fat with the new muscle I gain (and the calories they burn), or will I really have a hard time losing the bulky look.

    Most importantly can the products online be trusted? Can I get winny online? Do you recommend it?

    Can I go to a doctor and threaten to take steroids I get off the street and get the real stuff safely?

    Sorry for the amount of questions. I have done a lot of reading and it seems like there are too many conflicting recommendations to continue without asking personalized questions. I sincerely appreciate your feedback. THANKS!!!

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    Diet

    I wake at 8 and eat immediately
    a multi vitamin and fish/flax oil
    For breakfast
    I usually eat
    a large bowl of oatmeal w/ a banana or
    eggs with rice and fruit or
    a good whole grain cereal with fruit or
    a meal replacement shake
    COFFEE!!!(black)

    2hrs later i'll have some fruit or some chicken or a shake

    At 1 I like to have a large sandwich or any other meal consisting of a 40/40/20 split

    then I usually lift between 2 and 5 depending on my sched

    after I lift I take in protein via a shake, bar, or just food.

    For dinner ill have chicken beef or fish with a brown starch and a veggie.

    I don't eat after 8 and try to be asleep by 11

    My BF is high because of the large amount of calories I took in during my powerlifting phase (5000-7000) per day. Ever since then I have been unsuccessful at cutting even though i take in much less. BTW my BMR is 2400 and I eat about 2800 because of my lifting (I feel like the extra excercise warrants the additional calories). Im afraid that if I drop the calories i'll shrivel up into nothing!

    Do you think that AAS will work for me? Should I try some other kind of fat burner? What do you recommend. Thanks for the welcome!

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    no you dont need steroids at all
    cutting is diet/cardio based
    steroids build muscle

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    You really should get your diet down and really focus on what your long term goals are.

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    long term goals

    well my long term goals are to weigh what I weigh but have about 10% BF. What would you suggest I do?
    Last edited by castiron; 09-06-2008 at 08:49 PM.

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    To elaborate, what I need to do is build about 25 lbs of muscle and lose about 25lbs of fat to be 250 at 10%BF

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    Using juice to help aid a good diet never bothered me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castiron View Post
    To elaborate, what I need to do is build about 25 lbs of muscle and lose about 25lbs of fat to be 250 at 10%BF
    Your kind of wanting 2 things at once here. You can do a test only cycle with clen and gain about 10lbs and lose 3-4% BF if your diet is in check. Or you can lose some more weight, bring your BF% down, but retain your strength. Its yours choice. Tren and T3 would help with the body fat but since you haven't used steroids b4, tren is a no no.

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    What is it you think you can accomplish with one ten ml bottle of CYP anyway?

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    Haha thats also a great question... ^^^

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    Thanks jc. As for noclock and war, that's why I posted my question. For opinions, not critical questions. FYI my one bottle of cyp is what I have to start out with as test is apparently what a beginner should use. I would appreciate your input on what else I need to get to accomplish my aforementioned goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castiron View Post
    Thanks jc. As for noclock and war, that's why I posted my question. For opinions, not critical questions. FYI my one bottle of cyp is what I have to start out with as test is apparently what a beginner should use. I would appreciate your input on what else I need to get to accomplish my aforementioned goals.
    post your diet

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    i did post my diet its up the page

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    I wake at 8 and eat immediately
    a multi vitamin and fish/flax oil
    For breakfast
    I usually eat
    a large bowl of oatmeal w/ a banana or
    eggs with rice and fruit or
    a good whole grain cereal with fruit or
    a meal replacement shake
    COFFEE!!!(black)

    this isn't a diet, it's a jumble of foods without any order, we need to know how much of each you eat, how often, the macros, help us help you

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    why the black coffee? something not working right?

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    no i just really like black coffee

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    i'm 39
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan c View Post
    i'm 39 5'5 130lb. looking to gain 20-30lb.tring to do it right .working out ,work hard in constuction. eating right. waiting for my juice. but need advice.just cann't add pounds ...
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