Proposed Short Cycle

**dosher** · 12-08-2008, 08:07 PM

I've decided to take the plunge and try a cycle, but because of my job and family I would need to keep AAS use fairly hidden. Thus, I can't have dramatic gains in 10 weeks, so I'd like to try a series of short cycles to hopefully spread the gains of one regular cycle out over a 6-8 month period or so. This way I could accelerate my gains while avoiding too much suspicion. Here is my proposed plan:

W 1-2 Test Prop 75mg ED
W 1-2 Durabolin 50mg ED
W 1-2 Adex .25 mg EOD
W 3-4 Nolva 20mg ED
Repeat with 2-3 weeks off between cycles

Opinions? Do you guys think I would really need adex/nolva on such a short cycle?

Thanks, I'm going to research some more.

**kaberle_15** · 12-08-2008, 08:23 PM

Research more, do not do a 2 week cycle and IMO you shouldn't be using aas if you dont want good gains in fear others will suspect you use steroids . Get your priorities in order first.

What are your stats?

**dosher** · 12-08-2008, 09:15 PM

Thanks for the reply.

Stats:
6-1 215, ~15% BF
26 y/o

285 bench
350 squat
425 DL

I was thinking a cycle like this would speed things up without being too obvious. I understand what you're saying about priorities; that's something I'm struggling with at the moment.

Just theoretically, do you think this cycle would be worthless? I was thinking the test prop would do some good even with this abbreviated use.

**T_Own** · 12-08-2008, 09:20 PM

i think its pretty useless. by the time the short esters kick in (about a week) you're already getting ready to come off. and with the nandrolone , you shut down your hpta, and by the time its back to normal, you shut it down again with the next little cycle!

i think at your size, a better diet would help more. 215 and benching 285? not that impressive.. a cleaner diet and maybe just some supps would help you out a lot for now

**Reed** · 12-08-2008, 09:21 PM

Yep gonna agree with the others. Minimum of 6 weeks

**dosher** · 12-08-2008, 09:23 PM

Thanks guys, points taken.

**Mulciber** · 12-08-2008, 09:40 PM

i must say that may just be the shortest proposed cycle ive seen.... lol
but its all good brutha.. you were just throwing an idea out there.. no harm no foul.. atleast you havent started then asked questions.. more than happy to try and get ya pointed in the right direction

**hankdiesel** · 12-08-2008, 10:30 PM

prop 100mg eod 6-8 weeks followed by pct

**football12345** · 12-08-2008, 11:16 PM

300 mgs a week? i was going to start a thread about shorter cycles but i'll continue here. isn't 100 mg eod low for a 8 week cycle?

**football12345** · 12-08-2008, 11:44 PM

bump

**smokethedays** · 12-08-2008, 11:50 PM

What 2 weeks? Is this shit for real?
IMO, Who ever sold you the juice should really go to jail for not educating you on such basic peace of info.
And you should stick to creatine cycles for the next 1 year and STUDY AAS.

**marcus300** · 12-09-2008, 09:57 AM

You can gain amazing with shorter cycles but you have to implement and design it correctly. The right compounds and dosages need to be designed around your cycle history and one of the most important things is prime the body before the cycle, this will open the growth window to make gains dramatic when you start the cycle and cycle length can be reduced. Being honest 2 wks still isn't going to do it, the minimum would be around 30days

**football12345** · 12-09-2008, 10:21 AM

yes agreed. i'm going to do a 8 week cycle of prop. any recommendations on pct? and i can take adex to help prevent bloat/gyno while on cycle correct?

**football12345** · 12-09-2008, 02:59 PM

bump

**chuckt12345** · 12-09-2008, 03:13 PM

yes adex will help and

http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/

**dosher** · 12-13-2008, 04:50 PM

Just to clarify I haven't yet bought any gear as I am still in the research phase. I got the idea from a few places - Bill Roberts' article on short cycles (2 on, 4 off, 75 mg tren and 50 mg d-bol a day, with Clomid PCT) and posts by a few vets on another board. The idea was to "get in" and "get out" to gain a little while avoiding sides, then repeat several times. And again the user would theoretically gain steadily instead of blowing up in 10 weeks.

Alternatively I've thought of trying low dose test (prop for 6 weeks or enth for 8-10).

But I've ultimately decided to cut for 8 weeks after the first of the year and then do a 6-8 month bulk with creatine and tribulus. After that I will cut back again and re-assess things.

So I'm holding off for about a year, but I would like to read more on this topic.

**daem** · 12-13-2008, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by dosher

But I've ultimately decided to cut for 8 weeks after the first of the year and then do a 6-8 month bulk with creatine and tribulus. After that I will cut back again and re-assess things.

So I'm holding off for about a year, but I would like to read more on this topic.

Why not bulk now for 4-5 months and then cut for 6-8 weeks?

You'll look great for summer if you do it this way.

**dosher** · 12-13-2008, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by daem

Why not bulk now for 4-5 months and then cut for 6-8 weeks?

You'll look great for summer if you do it this way.

Because I've already been bulking for 7 months and am getting a little too sloppy.

**Kale** · 12-13-2008, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by dosher

Because I've already been bulking for 7 months and am getting a little too sloppy.

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**Kale** · 12-13-2008, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by football12345

yes agreed. i'm going to do a 8 week cycle of prop. any recommendations on pct? and i can take adex to help prevent bloat/gyno while on cycle correct?

dude go and start your own thread and stop hijacking this one