Originally Posted by
roid_rage
how so?? why would you need to use a bigger dosis of HCG? if 250 ui e5d can keep your endogenous T production going on, why would you need more??
250ius will maintain endogenous testosterone. That doesnt mean it will prevent labido problems whilst on progestins such as Deca/Tren. It maintains endogenous T, thats not up for debate IMHO. What is up for debate is how much HCG you'de need administer to replicate exogenous testosterone levels. I suspect you'de need to higher dose and risk desensitisation.
if the HCG can keep your endogenous T production while on roids, then heck, why in the hell do we need PCT if your body never stops making test? to combat strgones? if we are using Deca, there wont be too many estrogens going around, hell, add letro to the cycle, and you wont have stronges, your body will still make test, so there you go.. we are fine... no PCT needed.
No, its not that simple. Re-read my first post in this thread. Its clear you dont understand it. Also, read my PCT Sticky.
HCG will prevent testicular dysfunction. We still need to use SERMs to bring back the hypothalamus and get endogenous testosterone prodcution back (naturally) to basline post cycle.
Lets put aside the fact that of course will be better to use test, but in theory, using Deca and HCG during cycle will be able to prevent libido problems for example?
I have no idea and wouldnt risk it. You have to remember how quickly progestins cause HPTA shutdown. They activate both the AR and PR in the hypothalamus. Some even have labido issues on progestins when using exogenous testosterone. Again, running Deca/HCG isnt a wise choice. Adding a testosterone compound and supplementing with HCG for the reasons this thread was written, is.
HCG isnt a cycle in itself, its meerly an additive (and good one at that) in making recovery easier.