my first cycle, please suggest

**dinko** · 01-31-2010, 10:19 AM

I'm new to steroids .

1,80 height
74 kg weight
13,1% fat

I have a cycle for 10 weeks:

First 4 weeks, 2 weeks of then again 4 weeks:
Metrien 0,5mgr
Insulin from 1 to 10IU per day in two doses. Starts from 1 and goes to 10 and then again down to 1. Splitted half morning and half after workout (evening).

All 10 weeks:
200mg testo prop per week (tuesday and thursday at 15:00)
200mg testo eth per month (every 15 days, at 15:00)
grown hormone, 4 IU per day (2 IU morning and 2 IU evening after workout).
2 proviron (morning and night)
1 nolvadex (at night)

I usually workout at 20:00 and I finish at 21:30+

Now I'm on week no5. Results after 4 weeks:
82 kg
10,9% fat

Do you have anything to comment?

**Diegomania** · 01-31-2010, 10:23 AM

u gained 8kgs and lost 2% bf. keep going

**PuzzyFalker** · 01-31-2010, 10:25 AM

age?

**powerliftmike** · 01-31-2010, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by dinko

I'm new to steroids .

1,80 height
74 kg weight
13,1% fat

I have a cycle for 10 weeks:

First 4 weeks, 2 weeks of then again 4 weeks:
Metrien 0,5mgr
Insulin from 1 to 10IU per day in two doses. Starts from 1 and goes to 10 and then again down to 1. Splitted half morning and half after workout (evening).

All 10 weeks:
200mg testo prop per week (tuesday and thursday at 15:00)
200mg testo eth per month (every 15 days, at 15:00)
grown hormone, 4 IU per day (2 IU morning and 2 IU evening after workout).
2 proviron (morning and night)
1 nolvadex (at night)

I usually workout at 20:00 and I finish at 21:30+

Now I'm on week no5. Results after 4 weeks:
82 kg
10,9% fat

Do you have anything to comment?

This isnt even a cycle. This is TRT or something. 200mg test e per month? Are you kidding me? Running pyramid dose with insulin? Who the hell takes 1iu of slin anyway? And your "stack" is 2 different testosterones?? Time to read up and rethink things

**PuzzyFalker** · 01-31-2010, 10:36 AM

What is this cycle for aliens?

**dinko** · 01-31-2010, 10:37 AM

I'm 29,5 yrs.

About insulin I made a mistake. It goes from 3 to 10.
Day 1 : 3
Day 2 : 4
Day 3 : 5
Day 4 : 6
... 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 9, 9, 8, 8, ... 3.

Yes, two testos. Prop and eth. Trainer said they are completely two different testos and they act totally different in body.

Is there any place to read about that?
What you suggest?

**marcus300** · 01-31-2010, 10:43 AM

Stop everything your doing and do alot more research, your way off IMHO.

**dinko** · 01-31-2010, 10:45 AM

What is wrong ? Please give me more specific answers.

**PuzzyFalker** · 01-31-2010, 10:47 AM

Everythings wrong with it. You obv. havent researched.

**dinko** · 01-31-2010, 10:52 AM

So, everything?
Metrien is wrong?
Testo p is wrong?
Testo eth is wrong?
Proviron is wrong?
Nolvadex is wrong?
HGH is wrong?
Insulin is wrong?

Is what you mean?
And if its wrong why I gained 8 kg and decreased 2%+ of fat?

**MONEY AND MASS** · 01-31-2010, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by puzzyfalker

what is this cycle for aliens?

lol!!!

**juiceda26** · 01-31-2010, 11:23 AM

i was told to never use insulin unless i have to

**powerliftmike** · 01-31-2010, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by dinko

Yes, two testos. Prop and eth. Trainer said they are completely two different testos and they act totally different in body.

Ok put your trainer aside, and lets apply some common sense..How different do you think testosterone is when compared to testosterone???

**powerliftmike** · 01-31-2010, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by dinko

Is what you mean?
And if its wrong why I gained 8 kg and decreased 2%+ of fat?

How are you measuring your bodyfat? That "cycle" you outlined above is just slightly more effective than just eating chocolate chip cookies for a cycle.

**Diegomania** · 01-31-2010, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

How are you measuring your bodyfat? That "cycle" you outlined above is just slightly more effective than just eating chocolate chip cookies for a cycle.

just out of curiosity who's the chick in ur avatar?

**dinko** · 01-31-2010, 01:10 PM

The bodyfat measured (both before and after one month) by a Νutritionist/Occupational Therapist.

I don't think getting HG 4iu per day + testo two times per week is slightly more effective than just eating chocolate chips.

After all how it is possible to again 8kgs in 1 month and lower my fat more than 2% ?
Not to mention the strength on workouts. I'm stronger than ever.

Can you please advise me what is the first thing to change in this cycle? And don't tell me change all the cycle. I begin on this and I have to finish it somehow. Please, please, be more specific.